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The Trinity


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Bright Raven

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We agree that he always will be but we disagree that he always was.

The Father was alone at one time. The Son is his first creation. The Bible says he is the firstborn of all CREATURES in Col 1:15.


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Keypurr, Eternal means without beginning and without end. What do you not understand about that or do you reject what scripture says?
 

Bright Raven

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Eternal relates to TIME.

WHO created time?

Most likely the same one who created everything else.

Give it some thought BR.

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Keypurr, Read and understand;

e·ter·nal
[əˈtərn(ə)l]
ADJECTIVE
lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning:
"the secret of eternal youth" · [more]
synonyms: everlasting · never-ending · endless · perpetual · [more]
(of truths, values, or questions) valid for all time; essentially unchanging:
"eternal truths of art and life"
informal
seeming to last or persist forever, especially on account of being tedious or annoying:
"eternal nagging demands" · [more]
synonyms: constant · continual · continuous · perpetual · [more]
used to emphasize expressions of admiration, gratitude, or other feelings:
"to his eternal credit, he maintained his dignity throughout"
(the Eternal)
used to refer to an everlasting or universal spirit, as represented by God.
From the Oxford Dictionary.
 

keypurr

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Keypurr, Read and understand;

e·ter·nal
[əˈtərn(ə)l]
ADJECTIVE
lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning:
"the secret of eternal youth" · [more]
synonyms: everlasting · never-ending · endless · perpetual · [more]
(of truths, values, or questions) valid for all time; essentially unchanging:
"eternal truths of art and life"
informal
seeming to last or persist forever, especially on account of being tedious or annoying:
"eternal nagging demands" · [more]
synonyms: constant · continual · continuous · perpetual · [more]
used to emphasize expressions of admiration, gratitude, or other feelings:
"to his eternal credit, he maintained his dignity throughout"
(the Eternal)
used to refer to an everlasting or universal spirit, as represented by God.
From the Oxford Dictionary.
Read it slower. It all relates to TIME.

Forever is a TIME statement.
So is Eternal, it is a TIME statement.

Who created time?
God through Christ did.
So before Time there was God then his Son for all things were created through the Son.

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Bright Raven

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Read it slower. It all relates to TIME.

Forever is a TIME statement.
So is Eternal, it is a TIME statement.

Who created time?
God through Christ did.
So before Time there was God then his Son for all things were created through the Son.

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God and Christ are outside of time. They are ETERNAL. How long will it take for you to understand??? I know that you are not a stupid man, just not willing to hear the truth proclaimed.
 

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Before everything was created there was no need for time.
To have a "before" time requires time. "Before" is a statement of "when". "In the beginning" means at the beginning of recorded History, it doesn't mean that time began at that moment.

The Bible does not say that God created time. Time isn't something that was created.



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