More avoidance and deflection from the foolish woman.
Scriptures tells us the truth that it was the flesh body with nail puncture scars that was resurrected, and not some non-flesh spiritual body.
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Scriptures tells us the truth that it was the flesh body with nail puncture scars that was resurrected, and not some non-flesh spiritual body.
popsthebuilder
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Surely the two where not wholly the same or utterly one until Jesus ascended to return to GOD.
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popsthebuilder
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Do we as believers comprise the body of Christ?
How many make that single unit?
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ha!
That was classic!
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That last part is 100% compatible with the doctrine of the trinity!
Jesus said He was one WITH the Father even before He was resurrected and ascended to sit WITH the Father.
So His body didn't have to 'change' for Him to be one with the Father.
She cannot comprehend how two distinct persons can be one flesh (as Adam and Eve were) or how two distinct persons can be one GOD.
She refuses what scripture says about being "one".
Already have.
As usual, you do not pay attention.
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If you were even close to "debating", you would explain exactly HOW and WHY JR was not consistent. But you don't and can't.
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I wasn't saying it did exactly.
But the physical isn't the eternal and the begotten is not that which begat.
Why would you argue that point and similultaniously argue that they are different.
They are the same One Spirit.
Jesus pleasing the Spirit made Him even more one with that Spirit, but he was not the literal utter fullness of GOD until accenting. You know well that He did not know what all the FATHER knew.
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They always were and always are one. The Son did not cease to be God when He became flesh.
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So you believe the son was always the father?
Scripture clearly said He humbled Himself and became as man.
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The Bible says otherwise.
Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
(2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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Quit with the FALSE ACCUSATIONS!
Indeed, The WORD ... being GOD.... became flesh.
popsthebuilder
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I know, but there is a consensus as to what that means that doesn't agree with other scripture so I believe it is generally misunderstood.
If all the fullness of GOD was within the man Jesus prior to resurrection then He would have known the hour of the end, and He wouldn't have ever pleased His FATHER because He would have been the FATHER. Also wouldn't have asked
if
the cup could be taken from Him
if
it was the will of the FATHER.
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It's called a question; and can be readily deduced from interpreting the scripture about the fullness of the godhead as you just did; that is that Jesus was the literal utter eternal fullness of GOD ALMIGHTY as He walked the earth prior to resurrection.
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No, I said that it could refer to either the Holy Spirit (as a Person of the trinity), or it could refer to the entire trinity (ie, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, as one).
I didn't say that it referred to the Father or the Son. I said that it could refer to the (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), aka God.
The Son is God.
The Father is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.
BUT
The Son is not the Father.
The Father is not the Son.
The Son is not the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is not the Son.
The Father is not the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is not the Father.
YET
The three Persons are one God.
You keep assuming (like GT) that when we say "God" we always mean "the Father." And that's not true.
When we say "God," we mean God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all three Persons as one Being.
BUT
When we say "the Son," we mean the Son, who is God.
When we say "the Father," we mean the Father, who is God.
When we say "the Holy Spirit," we mean the Holy Spirit, who is God..
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Have you ever heard of a GENERALIZATION?
I do NOT believe that the LORD Jesus Christ was including Himself in the "no man knows". It was a GENERALIZATION.
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If the WORD was God, and He was (John 1:1)
and if the WORD was made flesh and He was (John 1:14)
Then He did NOT cease to be God at any time.