The Politically Incorrect Truth About Martin Luther King Jr.

[Town Heretic]

... many Democrats didn't like King's association with communists and the tactics that they use, Joe Waggoneer was one of them.

Joe also didn't much care for black people, especially the sort who wanted to eat where he ate. On the plus side, he wasn't nearly so judgmental when it came to prostitutes. But then, being a politician, that might have just been professional courtesy.

When you go into the sewer to learn and hence tell about the life of a particular sewer rat, you are going to get sewer water on you.

Same thing happens if you just go into one to get the opinions of turds.

This thread isn't for those who deny the truth, it's for those who are willing to learn about it.

No, but it's like you to think that's the point. Now have a good time putting your eyes out with that one.

Thanks for stopping by.

Yeah, if I was you I'd want this to look like a blog. And even then I'd be worried. :cheers:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
... many Democrats didn't like King's association with communists and the tactics that they use, Joe Waggoneer was one of them.

Joe also didn't much care for black people,

Neither did Margaret Sanger, who spoke to the women of the Ku Klux Klan and received a dozen or more invitations afterwards from like minded groups. Have I mentioned that Martin Luther King Jr. was the first co-recipient of the Margaret Sanger/Planned Parenthood baby butchering award?

especially the sort who wanted to eat where he ate.

I have to hand it to Planned Parenthood (the baby butchers who gave Martin Luther King Jr. it's first Margaret Sanger Award): a few years back when one of it's Administrators was discussing the price of dead baby parts while eating a salad for lunch, not once did the barbarian bring up race. If there's a buck to be made, who cares what color of skin the corpse has?

On the plus side, he wasn't nearly so judgmental when it came to prostitutes. But then, being a politician, that might have just been professional courtesy.

I've never seen adultery or engaging in sexual relations with a prostitute as a plus.


Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
When you go into the sewer to learn and hence tell about the life of a particular sewer rat, you are going to get sewer water on you.

Same thing happens if you just go into one to get the opinions of turds.

I really should apologize to the sewer rats of the world for comparing them to Martin Luther King Jr. After all, sewer rats have some morals.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I thought that you'd be ecstatic over King's close...ahem...'friendship' with Ralph Abernathy Arthur, after all, it's one more for the team, right?

"Team"?

Strange person...

 

[Town Heretic]

Neither did Margaret Sanger, who spoke to the women of the Ku Klux Klan and received a dozen or more invitations afterwards from like minded groups. Have I mentioned that Martin Luther King Jr. was the first co-recipient of the Margaret Sanger/Planned Parenthood baby butchering award?

You tried that in one of your previous attempts to misinform. She was also a racist who viewed abortion as a means of diminishing the black community. But a lot of people, including King, didn't know about any of that.

Here's a snippet from a piece written on that very point written by his niece:

"In 1939, Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood outlined her plan to eliminate the Black community: “The most successful, educational appeal to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their rebellious members.”

Dr. King was among a select group of Negro leaders, hand picked to promote a seemingly beneficial plan to promote healthy family planning. It was a plan of wolf in sheep’s clothing, and Trojan Horse proportions. Dr. King,...would be assassinated before the truth of the Planned Parenthood map for genocide would be made public after the passage of Roe VS Wade. The abortion agenda is in direct conflict with the teachings of Dr. King."

I've never seen adultery or engaging in sexual relations with a prostitute as a plus.

So you have a reading problem to match your struggle with inference then. Good to know.

I really should apologize to the sewer rats of the world for comparing them to Martin Luther King Jr. After all, sewer rats have some morals.

I'll add it to the list of things you should apologize about, including your ongoing attempt to defame King. You do the same with the founding fathers? You know, the slave owners, the sexually immoral among them? Most of the big names, but that's life.

Where did you launch that thread?

 

[Crucifer]

Everybody has skeletons in their closet. If you're looking for unblemished leadership then Jesus is basically you're only option.
The sins of a person doesn't affect their value in leadership, and MLK is no different. He was utilized bu God to perform a function just like other sinners like David, who not only committed adultery but sent a husband to his death in order to conceal it.
Where's your conviction on that? Do we just discount it because it's in the Bible lain:

 

[ok doser]

The sins of a person doesn't affect their value in leadership...

i suppose it depends on the nature of their sins and the nature of their leadership

would you say that the value of a priest in being a spiritual leader is not affected by his sin of being an active child molester?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
...Margaret Sanger, who spoke to the women of the Ku Klux Klan and received a dozen or more invitations afterwards from like minded groups. Have I mentioned that Martin Luther King Jr. was the first co-recipient of the Margaret Sanger/Planned Parenthood baby butchering award?

You tried that in one of your previous attempts to misinform. She was also a racist who viewed abortion as a means of diminishing the black community. But a lot of people, including King, didn't know about any of that.

Ya know, maybe Margaret Sanger didn't know what the KKK stood for when she accepted her invitation to speak to them? Sarcasm aside: It was no secret what Sanger stood for. If King didn't know when he accepted the award because he was too busy paying for hookers with NAACP money and sodomizing Ralph Abernathy, other co-recipients of the first award such as President Lyndon Baines Johnson could have filled him in.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/campaigns/ppfa-margaret-sanger-award-winners

...Dr. King,...would be assassinated before the truth of the Planned Parenthood map for genocide would be made public after the passage of Roe VS Wade. The abortion agenda is in direct conflict with the teachings of Dr. King."

Except that 12 years before King's death, Planned Parenthood had been working diligently to see that abortion was made legal.

From page 3:

"In 1962, Alan Guttmacher, M.D., begins his 12-year tenure as Planned Parenthood president. He is a strong advocate for a woman's right to safe and legal abortion at a time when Americans are increasingly angered by the dire consequences of abortion restrictions.

From 1956 to 1962, hundreds of women in the U.S. and Europe who took the drug thalidomide while pregnant give birth to children missing arms and legs. Sherri Finkbine, an American mother of four who used thalidomide, is refused an abortion. More than 60 percent of Americans disapprove of the refusal. Mrs. Finkbine flees to Sweden for a safe, legal abortion. (The fetus is gravely deformed.) Her case and others involving women who have taken thalidomide convince many Americans that anti-abortion laws need reform. In 1966, an epidemic of rubella, which, like thalidomide, causes a high incidence of fetal deformity, heightens public anger against abortion bans.
These two tragedies, combined with women's growing demands for the right to control their own fertility, bolster public support for legal and safe abortion."
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ther-King-Jr&p=3759502&viewfull=1#post3759502

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
I've never seen adultery or engaging in sexual relations with a prostitute as a plus.

So you have a reading problem to match your struggle with inference then. Good to know.

Nor homosexuality for that matter.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
I really should apologize to the sewer rats of the world for comparing them to Martin Luther King Jr. After all, sewer rats have some morals.

I'll add it to the list of things you should apologize about, including your ongoing attempt to defame King.

Here, let me get that apology out of the way:

I'm sorry little fellas for comparing you to a sexual degenerate who amongst other things aided in the murder of American GI's in South Vietnam.

There, I feel better now.

You do the same with the founding fathers? You know, the slave owners, the sexually immoral among them? Most of the big names, but that's life.

Where did you launch that thread?

I'll tell you what: If any of them were traitors who sodomized their male associates, etc. etc. etc., I'll gladly start that thread. Until then, I'll keep talking about Martin Luther King Jr. and why a holiday in his name should be repealed.

 

[Crucifer]

i suppose it depends on the nature of their sins and the nature of their leadership

would you say that the value of a priest in being a spiritual leader is not affected by his sin of being an active child molester?

A child molesting priest is actively defiling their office by their sin- instead of raising up children in the way should go he is victimizing them.

That's a completely different matter than from a man who has simply committed sins in the past. Leadership is a function, not a moral code.

 

[ok doser]

A child molesting priest is actively defiling their office by their sin- instead of raising up children in the way should go he is victimizing them.

That's a completely different matter than from a man who has simply committed sins in the past. Leadership is a function, not a moral code.

pretty sure acw's documentation shows that MLK was sinning at the very same time he was leading the civil rights movement, in fact continually up to his death

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Coretta Scott King was a early member of the pro abortion National Organization for Women and remained a member up until her death.

Here are her words when she accepted the Margaret Sanger Award for her husband, and it appears that Coretta Scott King knew quite a bit about Sanger.

"...“There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger’s early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist — a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her. “
https://sangerpapers.wordpress.com/tag/martin-luther-king-jr/

I'm not aware of any "higher law" that says the right to life only exists if the conditions that the child is born into are "humane".

 

[jgarden]

The Politically Incorrect Truth About Martin Luther King Jr.

King died for the cause that he believed in, which is more than one can say about his critics - let's not forget that as late as 1964, interracial marriage was still illegal in 19 American states!

Director J. Edgar Hoover, who was allowed to run the FBI as his personal "fiefdom," had the Bureau working overtime in an effort to discredit King and his cause!

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Let's see how ML King Jr.'s comrades in the Communist Party USA feel about abortion:

Reproductive Rights

September 26, 2001

Speech given at the Women’s Equality Conference

To bear or
not bear children – to control one’s own fertility, one’s physical self
– is a basic and profoundly important human right. 40 percent of the world’s
three billion or so women live in countries that to one degree or another
usurp that control or deny that right. And of course in our own country,
a sharp struggle is raging over that right.
Defending
women’s right to bodily autonomy, women’s right to self-determination
– is a basic principle for those who are fighting for a democratic society,
for a better world, a humane world.
http://www.cpusa.org/party_info/reproductive-rights/

There's that word again: "humane". Coretta Scott King, upon accepting the first Margaret Sanger Award for her husband, couldn't have said it any better:

" She [Sanger] launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions."
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ther-King-Jr&p=5312380&viewfull=1#post5312380

 

[ok doser]

King died for the cause that he believed in...

communism?

 

[aikido7]

communism?

Liberty and justice for ALL.

 

[aikido7]

Although sympathetic to communism’s core concern with social justice, King complained that with its “cold atheism wrapped in the garments of materialism, communism provides no place for God or Christ”

Careful readers of Acts in the Bible know full well that Paul’s community of believers were to “hold all things in common.” This is clearly a nascent Marxism. A couple who refused to follow this rule were immediately struck dead on the spot.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Although sympathetic to communism’s core concern with social justice, King complained that with its “cold atheism wrapped in the garments of materialism, communism provides no place for God or Christ”
Careful readers of Acts in the Bible know full well that Paul’s community of believers were to “hold all things in common.” This is clearly a nascent Marxism. A couple who refused to follow this rule were immediately struck dead on the spot.

Speaking of Marxism: (From the pro King propaganda piece that you failed to link) :

"In his 1958 memoir, he reported that although he rejected communism’s central tenets, he was sympathetic to Marx’s critique of capitalism, finding the “gulf between superfluous wealth and abject poverty” that existed in the United States morally wrong (Stride, 94). Writing his future wife, Coretta Scott, during the first summer of their relationship, he told her that he was “more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic. And yet I am not so opposed to capitalism that I have failed to see its relative merits” (Papers 6:123; 125)."
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/communism

Thank you for pointing out that comrade King was a socialist who admired the work of Karl Marx, something that I'd shown earlier in the thread:

From page 3:

"Hofford continued: "What is missing from most of the Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebrations is any discussion of the radical King ... [who] put forth a philosophy and theology stressing the need to balance individual will with community will." Hofford recalls that King was a strident opponent of capitalism, a Marxist liberation theologian who preached that "'the problem of racism, the problem of economic exploitation and the problem of war are all tied together.'" King sought not only an end to legally enforced racial segregation, but also a radical restructuring of American society.

In a September 1967 speech in Atlanta, King condemned capitalism as an inherently unjust economic system and declared that his movement was devoted to "restructuring the whole of American society." In Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community?, a book published in that same year, King endorsed the time-honored socialist demand for a guaranteed minimum annual wage, which would be "pegged to the median income of society" and would "automatically increase as the total social income grows." In this particular example of literary "borrowing," King was merging his voice with that of Karl Marx, who coined the phrase "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

King also bared his socialist inclinations in a lengthy interview he granted to Playboy, a strange pulpit for a man of God to employ. In the porn magazine's January 1965 issue, King moralized that "all of America's wealth today could not adequately compensate its Negroes for his [sic] centuries of exploitation and humiliation." Anticipating the contemporary movement demanding "reparations
" for slavery, he insisted that black Americans be given preferential economic treatment. Of course, this would provoke similar demands from "the disadvantaged of all races" -- a prospect King welcomed: "I do not intend that this program of economic aid should apply only to the Negro.... We must develop a federal program of public works, retraining and jobs for all...."
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ther-King-Jr&p=3589249&viewfull=1#post3589249

 

[Town Heretic]

Ya know, maybe Margaret Sanger didn't know what the KKK stood for when she accepted her invitation to speak to them?

Who's defending Sanger?

It was no secret what Sanger stood for.

It actually was...in fact, some people still debate her involvement in that particular. Otherwise no black person of any stripe would have been caught within a mile of her, a point your ham fisted attempt can't account for...but it's like you to try to make it fit anyway.

Except that 12 years before King's death, Planned Parenthood had been working diligently to see that abortion was made legal.

"In 1962, Alan Guttmacher, M.D., begins his 12-year tenure as Planned Parenthood president. He is a strong advocate for a woman's right to safe and legal abortion at a time when Americans are increasingly angered by the dire consequences of abortion restrictions.

King opposed abortion, so whatever was going on within Planned Parenthood it had no relation to either the award or his acceptance. Also, King received the award in 1966, four years after Guttmacher stepped into his role. So your "12 years" loses a lot of teeth when anyone recognizes the deceit you attempted with that mixing.


I wrote: "So you have a reading problem to match your struggle with inference then. Good to know."
You quote that then respond:

Nor homosexuality for that matter.

So...that's utterly unconnected.

Here, let me get that apology out of the way:

Your idea of an apology is on par with your rationality: absent where it isn't distorted and mistaken.

I'll keep talking about Martin Luther King Jr. and why a holiday in his name should be repealed.

Of course you will. And it will continue to be as meaningful and impactful, no doubt.

 

[Crucifer]

pretty sure acw's documentation shows that MLK was sinning at the very same time he was leading the civil rights movement, in fact continually up to his death

He was a black Baptist pastor in the inner suburbs.
Not the easiest thing to take on- I know by experience having attended predominantly black churches and the amount of problems they have to deal with.
MLK also had his own demons to deal with in having grown up in the same environment.

 

[aikido7]

Capitalism is inherently exploitative. And unsustainable.

This is why some Americans fear socialism so much. It points to the unspoken but well-known hazards of a capitalist system.

Few citizens realize that libraries, pollice & fire departments, our highway system, the GI Bill, our own military, the postal system, Congressional health care, public schools, all elected senators and congresspeople, corporate bailouts, etc. etc.

ALL examples of Democratic Socialism.

 

[aikido7]

Again, the Apostle Paul’s community of believers were mandated to keep “all things in common.”

And here’s a chant you can use:

God forgives ME but will not forgive that black guy.