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The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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A real Tree of life?.........
A real Tree of life?.........
I think this account is worth considering (chuckles aside), since we don't know much about the tree of life as it is,....the Genesis account doesn't give much detail about it, and many take the story as metaphorical anyways, just a myth to explain why man's physical body dies or how he has the powers to know good and evil, and so on. The UB account offers a possible explanation and claims an actual physical 'tree of life' existed giving 'life' to those persons who has the required complement in their bodies to benefit from such.
Furthermore, even among some traditionalist Christians there is a theory of a pre-adamic race and that this world was ruled over by Lucifer in an earlier epoch of the Earth's history, and this correlates with some of what the papers reveal on our planet's history, since Calagastia was given the title of Planetary Prince and sojourned here with a staff of 100 materialized sons, but later joined the Lucifer Rebellion. Others sons of God that joined the rebellion were Dalagastia and Satan. The Lucifer Rebellion affected our planet's progress and evolution although since Christ-Michael (Jesus) has regained his title as Planetary Prince by triumphing over them thru his bestowal(incarnation) here, and his resurrection, the power of the fallen ones have been greatly diminished.
See: The Devil - Calagastia
Satan in the UB
A real Tree of life?.........
I think this account is worth considering (chuckles aside), since we don't know much about the tree of life as it is,....the Genesis account doesn't give much detail about it, and many take the story as metaphorical anyways, just a myth to explain why man's physical body dies or how he has the powers to know good and evil, and so on. The UB account offers a possible explanation and claims an actual physical 'tree of life' existed giving 'life' to those persons who has the required complement in their bodies to benefit from such.
Furthermore, even among some traditionalist Christians there is a theory of a pre-adamic race and that this world was ruled over by Lucifer in an earlier epoch of the Earth's history, and this correlates with some of what the papers reveal on our planet's history, since Calagastia was given the title of Planetary Prince and sojourned here with a staff of 100 materialized sons, but later joined the Lucifer Rebellion. Others sons of God that joined the rebellion were Dalagastia and Satan. The Lucifer Rebellion affected our planet's progress and evolution although since Christ-Michael (Jesus) has regained his title as Planetary Prince by triumphing over them thru his bestowal(incarnation) here, and his resurrection, the power of the fallen ones have been greatly diminished.
See: The Devil - Calagastia
Satan in the UB
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.....but they believe Noah's flood myth?????
Has anyone ever mistaken you for being sane?
Some may wonder, just like they said Jesus was beside himself. But at least I am sober unlike Noah who "When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent." Genesis 9:21
86:7.4 "Modern civilized races are just emerging from ghost fear as an explanation of luck and the commonplace inequalities of existence. Mankind is achieving emancipation from the bondage of the ghost-spirit explanation of ill luck. But while men are giving up the erroneous doctrine of a spirit cause of the vicissitudes of life, they exhibit a surprising willingness to accept an almost equally fallacious teaching which bids them attribute all human inequalities to political misadaptation, social injustice, and industrial competition. But new legislation, increasing philanthropy, and more industrial reorganization, however good in and of themselves, will not remedy the facts of birth and the accidents of living. Only comprehension of facts and wise manipulation within the laws of nature will enable man to get what he wants and to avoid what he does not want. Scientific knowledge, leading to scientific action, is the only antidote for so-called accidental ills.
86:7.5 Industry, war, slavery, and civil government arose in response to the social evolution of man in his natural environment; religion similarly arose as his response to the illusory environment of the imaginary ghost world. Religion was an evolutionary development of self-maintenance, and it has worked, notwithstanding that it was originally erroneous in concept and utterly illogical.
86:7.6 Primitive religion prepared the soil of the human mind, by the powerful and awesome force of false fear, for the bestowal of a bona fide spiritual force of supernatural origin, the Thought Adjuster. And the divine Adjusters have ever since labored to transmute God-fear into God-love. Evolution may be slow, but it is unerringly effective." UB 1955
86:7.5 Industry, war, slavery, and civil government arose in response to the social evolution of man in his natural environment; religion similarly arose as his response to the illusory environment of the imaginary ghost world. Religion was an evolutionary development of self-maintenance, and it has worked, notwithstanding that it was originally erroneous in concept and utterly illogical.
86:7.6 Primitive religion prepared the soil of the human mind, by the powerful and awesome force of false fear, for the bestowal of a bona fide spiritual force of supernatural origin, the Thought Adjuster. And the divine Adjusters have ever since labored to transmute God-fear into God-love. Evolution may be slow, but it is unerringly effective." UB 1955
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ERRONEOUS IDEAS OF GOD
4:5.1 "Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that primitive man was a mythmaker.
4:5.2 One of the greatest sources of confusion on Urantia concerning the nature of God grows out of the failure of your sacred books clearly to distinguish between the personalities of the Paradise Trinity and between Paradise Deity and the local universe creators and administrators. During the past dispensations of partial understanding, your priests and prophets failed clearly to differentiate between Planetary Princes, System Sovereigns, Constellation Fathers, Creator Sons, Superuniverse Rulers, the Supreme Being, and the Universal Father. Many of the messages of subordinate personalities, such as Life Carriers and various orders of angels, have been, in your records, presented as coming from God himself. Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.
4:5.3 The people of Urantia continue to suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God. The gods who go on a rampage in the storm; who shake the earth in their wrath and strike down men in their anger; who inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood—these are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the Gods who live and rule the universes. Such concepts are a relic of the times when men supposed that the universe was under the guidance and domination of the whims of such imaginary gods. But mortal man is beginning to realize that he lives in a realm of comparative law and order as far as concerns the administrative policies and conduct of the Supreme Creators and the Supreme Controllers.
4:5.4 The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. Such beliefs are utterly repulsive to the celestial beings and the divine rulers who serve and reign in the universes. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.
4:5.5 The Hebrews believed that "without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin." They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices and substituted therefor, in the primitive minds of his childlike Bedouin followers, the ceremonial sacrifice of animals.
4:5.6 The bestowal of a Paradise Son on your world was inherent in the situation of closing a planetary age; it was inescapable, and it was not made necessary for the purpose of winning the favor of God. This bestowal also happened to be the final personal act of a Creator Son in the long adventure of earning the experiential sovereignty of his universe. What a travesty upon the infinite character of God! this teaching that his fatherly heart in all its austere coldness and hardness was so untouched by the misfortunes and sorrows of his creatures that his tender mercies were not forthcoming until he saw his blameless Son bleeding and dying upon the cross of Calvary!
4:5.7 But the inhabitants of Urantia are to find deliverance from these ancient errors and pagan superstitions respecting the nature of the Universal Father. The revelation of the truth about God is appearing, and the human race is destined to know the Universal Father in all that beauty of character and loveliness of attributes so magnificently portrayed by the Creator Son who sojourned on Urantia as the Son of Man and the Son of God." UB 1955
4:5.8 [Presented by a Divine Counselor of Uversa.]
4:5.1 "Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that primitive man was a mythmaker.
4:5.2 One of the greatest sources of confusion on Urantia concerning the nature of God grows out of the failure of your sacred books clearly to distinguish between the personalities of the Paradise Trinity and between Paradise Deity and the local universe creators and administrators. During the past dispensations of partial understanding, your priests and prophets failed clearly to differentiate between Planetary Princes, System Sovereigns, Constellation Fathers, Creator Sons, Superuniverse Rulers, the Supreme Being, and the Universal Father. Many of the messages of subordinate personalities, such as Life Carriers and various orders of angels, have been, in your records, presented as coming from God himself. Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.
4:5.3 The people of Urantia continue to suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God. The gods who go on a rampage in the storm; who shake the earth in their wrath and strike down men in their anger; who inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood—these are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the Gods who live and rule the universes. Such concepts are a relic of the times when men supposed that the universe was under the guidance and domination of the whims of such imaginary gods. But mortal man is beginning to realize that he lives in a realm of comparative law and order as far as concerns the administrative policies and conduct of the Supreme Creators and the Supreme Controllers.
4:5.4 The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. Such beliefs are utterly repulsive to the celestial beings and the divine rulers who serve and reign in the universes. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.
4:5.5 The Hebrews believed that "without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin." They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices and substituted therefor, in the primitive minds of his childlike Bedouin followers, the ceremonial sacrifice of animals.
4:5.6 The bestowal of a Paradise Son on your world was inherent in the situation of closing a planetary age; it was inescapable, and it was not made necessary for the purpose of winning the favor of God. This bestowal also happened to be the final personal act of a Creator Son in the long adventure of earning the experiential sovereignty of his universe. What a travesty upon the infinite character of God! this teaching that his fatherly heart in all its austere coldness and hardness was so untouched by the misfortunes and sorrows of his creatures that his tender mercies were not forthcoming until he saw his blameless Son bleeding and dying upon the cross of Calvary!
4:5.7 But the inhabitants of Urantia are to find deliverance from these ancient errors and pagan superstitions respecting the nature of the Universal Father. The revelation of the truth about God is appearing, and the human race is destined to know the Universal Father in all that beauty of character and loveliness of attributes so magnificently portrayed by the Creator Son who sojourned on Urantia as the Son of Man and the Son of God." UB 1955
4:5.8 [Presented by a Divine Counselor of Uversa.]
At least you're being honest at the end of your post.
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Translation: Angry Grosnick has no defense against truth which exposes the uncomfortable state of his conflicting theological claims.
Jesus didn't preach Paul's gospel, he preached his own.
Returning to his rightful place in heaven was inevitable, experiencing the final act of life that all men must pass through so that he can understand all that man is asked to do, priceless!
Jesus didn't preach Paul's gospel, he preached his own.
Returning to his rightful place in heaven was inevitable, experiencing the final act of life that all men must pass through so that he can understand all that man is asked to do, priceless!
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Nonsense.... Tradition, and preserved records are two totally different things.
God's Word is the trustworthy inerrant message of our lost condition, and His love and sacrifice to redeem us from a lost eternity.
So happy to see you looking like a guy who is lost within the confines of his own mind.
By the way Caino, I'm not angry with you, I just enjoy mocking you. Is there anything wrong with that?
Huh??
What messages have you been receiving from the UFO Mothership lately? Anything new?
The UB doesn't have a mothership. How about the Unicorn of the Bible, do you see him much?
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