ECT The core of the argument between Christians and MAD.

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Arsenios

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Show where the 12 preached 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV as the good news in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John when they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom!

Everywhere -

All YOU need to do is show just ONE teaching of the 12 that is denied by Paul, or ONE teaching of Paul, that is denied by ANY of the 12...

So far, not even ONE MAD adherent has been able to do so...

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Arsenios

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The million dollar question

"Be ye repenting, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!"

Preached by John the Baptist, then Christ, then Peter, all quoted in Scripture, and by Paul where he preaches Christ and Him crucified, and shows us what he desires that we should emulate of "Those called to be Apostles... as... Appointed unto Death..."

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SaulToPaul 2

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"Be ye repenting, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!"

Preached by John the Baptist, then Christ, then Peter, all quoted in Scripture, and by Paul where he preaches Christ and Him crucified, and shows us what he desires that we should emulate of "Those called to be Apostles... as... Appointed unto Death..."

Arsenios

What is the kingdom of heaven?
 

steko

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What is the kingdom of heaven?

This:

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jer 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jer 23:8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
 

andyc

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The kingdom of heaven is not of this world, guys.
Jesus is not of this world.
Abraham looked for somewhere outside of this world.

That which is seen is temporary, but that which is unseen (heaven, God, Christ, Abraham) is eternal. You guys must park in the new testament which is the great spiritual unveiling :)
 

andyc

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Show where the 12 preached 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV as the good news in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John when they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom!

Luke 24:25-27
Then He (Jesus) said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! "Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.


Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things?

Why was Jesus asking questions about his suffering and glorification?
Why was Jesus frustrated about the disciples not understanding Paul's gospel?
 

patrick jane

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Luke 24:25-27
Then He (Jesus) said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! "Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.


Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things?

Why was Jesus asking questions about his suffering and glorification?
Why was Jesus frustrated about the disciples not understanding Paul's gospel?

If Jesus Told Them EVERYTHING, why did He return to tell Paul more ?
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Luke 24:25-27
Then He (Jesus) said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! "Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.


Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things?

Why was Jesus asking questions about his suffering and glorification?
Why was Jesus frustrated about the disciples not understanding Paul's gospel?

They had been preaching "the gospel" well before Luke 24, and didn't have a clue about any of this.

It cannot be the same "the gospel" as 1 Cor 15:1-4.

You know, I know it. Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows it.

Why fight it?
 

Arsenios

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The kingdom of heaven is not of this world, guys.
Jesus is not of this world.
Abraham looked for somewhere outside of this world.

That which is seen is temporary, but that which is unseen (heaven, God, Christ, Abraham) is eternal. You guys must park in the new testament which is the great spiritual unveiling :)

Indeed so, which is why those in the Kingdom of Heaven upon this Earth are not OF this world...

The Body of Christ is the Kingdom of Heaven on this earth.

"Thou hast prepared a Table before me...
In the presence of them that afflict me..."

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Arsenios

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Was the kingdom of heaven offered to everyone?

Christ? He IS the Kingdom of Heaven...
Not at first...
To the Jews first, then the Gentiles...

Then to all the Nations through the Apostles...

Even through the called Apostle, Paul...

Paul the persecutor of Christ...

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