the church

[chrysostom]

-the church teaches redemption through His suffering and death
-the church teaches forgiveness through His grace
-it is what paul teaches
-Ephesians 1:7

 

[patrick jane]

Colossians 1:14 KJV -

 

[chrysostom]

mad people can't explain this
-Ephesians 1:7King James Version (KJV)

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

mad people can't explain this
-Ephesians 1:7King James Version (KJV)

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

:chuckle:

Means what it says.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

1. Passover- redemption
2. Unleavened Bread- separation of sin from the body in burial
3. First Fruits-resurrection
4. Pentecost- Spirit poured upon two loaves

5. Trumpets-gathering for Judgement
6. Day of Atonement- 2nd coming, Judgement, sins eradicated
7. Tabernacles-the kingdom, inheritances

 

[HisServant]

-the church teaches redemption through His suffering and death
-the church teaches forgiveness through His grace
-it is what paul teaches
-Ephesians 1:7

Nothing about suffering and death in that verse!

 

[chrysostom]

Nothing about suffering and death in that verse!

that is why you need the church to help you interpret scripture

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

that is why you need the church to help you interpret scripture

:chuckle:

 

[HisServant]

that is why you need the church to help you interpret scripture

You mean I need them make something out of nothing?... I need them to pervert language and dream up pagan interpretations of scripture.

And you expect me to believe an institution that the Italians have ruled for centuries.

Do I look that dumb?

 

[patrick jane]

:chuckle:

We need priests to hep us.

hep me

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

We need priests to hep us.

hep me

I miss John Corapi.

 

[chrysostom]

Do I look that dumb?

you sound dumb
-tulip is dumb

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

you sound dumb
-tulip is dumb

Is bowing down to dumb statues intelligent?

 

[HisServant]

you sound dumb
-tulip is dumb

I find that a compliment from someone so embroiled in a cult.. based on Mithraism.

 

[chrysostom]

I find that a compliment from someone so embroiled in a cult.. based on Mithraism.

that sounds dumb
-the church teaches your salvation depends on what you do
-that sounds like a good idea

 

[TulipBee]

that sounds dumb
-the church teaches your salvation depends on what you do
-that sounds like a good idea

It would be better if you include that God inspires the believer

 

[chrysostom]

It would be better if you include that God inspires the believer

why would that be necessary?

 

[HisServant]

that sounds dumb
-the church teaches your salvation depends on what you do
-that sounds like a good idea

No it doesn't.... because no one will ever get to heaven under that methodology.

Seriously, what do you think you can possibly do to merit going to heaven?... the answer is that even your best deeds are as filthy rags... so nothing you do is acceptable to God.

 

[TulipBee]

why would that be necessary?

Being saved without God is nonsense

 

[chrysostom]

Seriously, what do you think you can possibly do to merit going to heaven?..

what you do demonstrates how trustworthy you are
-that makes sense if you understand free will