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meshak

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Galatians 5:22-23 [Full Chapter]

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Most Christians claim they are sinless and saved.

Jesus commands His followers to be perfect. Above verse is condition of perfection.

No one can achieve such high standards. This is a life long endeavor.

It is a lie to claim sinless and saved without being perfect.
 

meshak

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Galatians 5:22-23 [Full Chapter]

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Most Christians claim they are sinless and saved.

Jesus commands His followers to be perfect. Above verse is condition of perfection.

No one can achieve such high standards. This is a life long endeavor.

It is a lie to claim sinless and saved without being perfect.

bump.
 

patrick jane

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Galatians 5:22-23 [Full Chapter]

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Most Christians claim they are sinless and saved.

Jesus commands His followers to be perfect. Above verse is condition of perfection.

No one can achieve such high standards. This is a life long endeavor.

It is a lie to claim sinless and saved without being perfect.
OK, fine. You are not saved and sinless.
 

meshak

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OK, fine. You are not saved and sinless.

You see, you distort my word.

I have been claiming I am not the Judge so I cannot claim to be saved.

But Jesus gives me march and cleanse my imperfect faith.

I know you are one of them claiming to be saved and I am not saved.
 

patrick jane

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You see, you distort my word.

I have been claiming I am not the Judge so I cannot claim to be saved.

But Jesus gives me march and cleanse my imperfect faith.

I know you are one of them claiming to be saved and I am not saved.
No, you are claiming you are not saved. I already am.

I know it's hard for you to understand, but please try.

Ephesians 2:8:9 KJV - [FONT=&quot]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:[/FONT][FONT=&quot]9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Saved. By Faith. Gift from God.

The only reason to not be saved is if you do not believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose the third day, according to the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,[/FONT]
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meshak

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Many of you spread this kind of lies to discredit their spiritual enemy.

It is because you cannot refute my claim, it seems.

Many of you are so intimidated by my statements.

So you spread lies.
 

patrick jane

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Many of you spread this kind of lies to discredit their spiritual enemy.

It is because you cannot refute my claim, it seems.

Many of you are so intimidated by my statements.

So you spread lies.
Your statements entertain me. The problem is the lies you tell might be believed by even one person. Then you are guilty of preaching a false gospel.

Galatians 1:8-9 KJV -
 

Jacob

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Galatians 5:22-23 [Full Chapter]

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Most Christians claim they are sinless and saved.

Jesus commands His followers to be perfect. Above verse is condition of perfection.

No one can achieve such high standards. This is a life long endeavor.

It is a lie to claim sinless and saved without being perfect.
Who is the fruit of the Spirit the fruit of?
 

Jacob

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You seem to be argueing about semantics. So is that going to change the point I am making?

Nope.
I do not know the point that you are making. The fruit of the Spirit is the fruit of the Spirit. It is not fruit that you can produce.
 

meshak

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I do not know the point that you are making. The fruit of the Spirit is the fruit of the Spirit. It is not fruit that you can produce.

Ok, I whole heartedly disagree.

So it is ok not to strive to be like Jesus by practicing love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness and self-control?

You need a lot of self-examination of your faith, friend.
 

Jacob

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Ok, I whole heartedly disagree.

So it is ok not to strive to be like Jesus by practicing love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness and self-control?

You need a lot of self-examination of your faith, friend.
Different from the fruit that is produced in you by the Spirit.

You are not the Spirit.

Is the fruit of the Spirit rather something that is visible in you?

Against such things there is no law.

Is this visible in you or others or not visible in anyone?

Is the fruit of the Spirit visible or invisible?

God is not visible and neither is the Spirit.

The fruit of the Spirit is not your works.

The fruit of the Spirit is not a requirement for salvation.

Works are not a requirement for salvation.

Is the fruit of the Spirit your works that God has for you to do or something else, something different from this?

Character
Qualities
Attributes

What do you say about all of this?
 

meshak

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Different from the fruit that is produced in you by the Spirit.

You are not the Spirit.

Is the fruit of the Spirit rather something that is visible in you?

Against such things there is no law.

Is this visible in you or others or not visible in anyone?

Is the fruit of the Spirit visible or invisible?

God is not visible and neither is the Spirit.

The fruit of the Spirit is not your works.

The fruit of the Spirit is not a requirement for salvation.

Works are not a requirement for salvation.

Is the fruit of the Spirit your works that God has for you to do or something else, something different from this?

Character
Qualities
Attributes

What do you say about all of this?

Please answer my question.

thanks.
 
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