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Yeah, that thing about you being easy to paint in a certain light. This is why.

Here's the thing- you all didn't care about how others felt. The plan was to sabotage anyone opposed to you all's social views and political ideology.
Liberals have acted shamelessly over the years, and it isn't some hidden thing- they were proud of it and rubbed it everyone's faces.

Face it, Broseph, yall got got drunk on your influence and didn't expect conservatives would swing back- because of that, many people just don't care what yall have to say right now :rolleyes:
 

rexlunae

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Here's the thing- you all didn't care about how others felt. The plan was to sabotage anyone opposed to you all's social views and political ideology.
Liberals have acted shamelessly over the years, and it isn't some hidden thing- they were proud of it and rubbed it everyone's faces.

Ah, so your feelings are hurt. You don't have a legitimate complaint, so you cite your hurt feelings.

Grow up and get over yourself. Or at least come up with an objection rooted in some kind of real grievance.

Face it, Broseph, yall got got drunk on your influence and didn't expect conservatives would swing back- because of that, many people just don't care what yall have to say right now :rolleyes:

And we used that power to, what? Give people health care and come closer to balancing the budget. Yeah, you poor dear, I can see you're suffering.
 

Zeke

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The current banking system has almost nothing to do with capitalism. In fact, it is a socialist/quasi-fascist form of banking. No bank should be allowed to lend money it doesn't have nor should you have to be a bank to lend money.

Further, when the Federal Reserve creates money out of thin air, it depreciates the value of the money that existed before but not immediately. The people who get that new money first get to spend it with the current purchasing power. It only loses that purchasing power as it finds its way into the economy. Since the U.S. Dollar is an international currency, this effect may not be felt in America right away. It depends on where the bulk of the money is flowing. But regardless of who gets the brunt of the drop in purchasing power, the Fed's creation of fiat currency has the effect of stealing wealth from those who earned it. It is fundamentally corrupt and ought not be allowed.

NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with the point being made in the opening post. If our country had a banking and monetary system that was 100% just, we'd still be creating problems by enabling people to be lazy by feeding those who will not work with food that someone else had to produce and which was paid for with money that was stolen from those who earned it.

Sure it does, the poor are a generational/institutional produced construct that makes an OP like this obsolete within spiritual liability 1Cor 13:1-13, that transcends this kingdoms carnal dialectic problem reaction solution which you wrongly base you're opinions on.
 

Greg Jennings

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Hunger is a very strong motivator, and it's not like in today's society there isn't something one could do to earn money. I could point to a couple examples of people who are disabled, but still make a living. For example, the woman who has no arms who paints using her feet, another woman who paints using her mouth to hold the brush. If someone has a sound mind, they should be able to work.
What profession that does not require higher education could the two people you used in your example do for a living that would earn enough money to live independently? As I'm sure you know, artistry isn't a moneymaker unless you are a big deal.

The verse is very clear. If a man will not work, then he shall not eat.

If a man wants to work, then could you not offer him a job where he could do something to earn money? Even if it's just unloading a trailer of wood and then loading it back up again, it's far better than handouts.
Im afraid most disabled people couldn't do that
 

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What profession that does not require higher education could the two people you used in your example do for a living that would earn enough money to live independently? Keep in mind the problems they have with transport

For the two I presented, they worked through and in spite of their disability. As far as I'm aware, being an artist does not absolutely require a 'higher education.'

Im afraid most disabled people couldn't do that

So most disabled people could not be baggers at their local grocery store? They couldn't wash dishes at a restaurant? They couldn't be a janitor at a local business? Which of those require 'higher learning'?

As for transportation to and from work, could not an employer help them find a ride? could not a coworker offer a ride to the person who wants to work?

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What profession that does not require higher education could the two people you used in your example do for a living that would earn enough money to live independently?

seems to me that the first one could learn to pick lettuce or lay bricks using their feet :idunno:
 

Greg Jennings

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For the two I presented, they worked through and in spite of their disability. As far as I'm aware, being an artist does not absolutely require a 'higher education.'
As I'm sure you'll see in my other post to you, artistry is not a moneymaking profession.



So most disabled people could not be baggers at their local grocery store? They couldn't wash dishes at a restaurant? They couldn't be a janitor at a local business? Which of those require 'higher learning'?
If you are the boss of a restaurant, and you can either A) hire an able-bodied teenager to wash your dishes and clean your floors or B) hire a handicapped person who will need assistance doing the chores and may be unable to do them completely due to lack of mobility. Which do you choose?(Example: a paraplegic in a wheelchair couldn't reach the sink or fryer without a boost, and they have no way to sweep or mop efficiently)

You're going to take A) every single time because it's best for your business.


How many handicapped people do you know that work in professions like you have suggested? Do you think that they don't work due to laziness or lack of ability?

As for transportation to and from work, could not an employer help them find a ride? could not a coworker offer a ride to the person who wants to work?
If I'm an employer, I'm probably not going to hire someone who I have to help get to work if there are better options, which there always are
 

Greg Jennings

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seems to me that the first one could learn to pick lettuce or lay bricks using their feet :idunno:

And as an employer, you'd hire someone who takes forever crawling around and picking lettuce with their feet over an able-bodied fellow who can do three times the work in half the time?
 

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If I'm an employer, I'm probably not going to hire someone who I have to help get to work if there are better options, which there always are

Unless there is a government incentive program to do so. Righties deplore government assistance, regulation and intervention ...unless and until they can derive a profit from it. :plain:
 
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