musterion
Well-known member
No thanks. There's nothing I can say that hasn't been explained to you before many times.
ECT Speaking in tongues
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No thanks. There's nothing I can say that hasn't been explained to you before many times.
You sure have some major 'Anger Issues." Those "Issues" seem to be aimed at MAD Believers. You're somewhat of a "problem child," I see.
Danoh, you're beginning to annoy me again.
"Not from Scripture but on the MADs own terms," ay?
You writing an autobiography?
:chuckle:
Just exactly how did you study this issue out in Scripture, that you missed it?
Other than the here say you have said you heard "about" and concluded said fellow MADS "refusal" of...
You and I went down this road before.
Go back to what I had merely tried to point out to you about these things way back when, only for you to take issue and start with the potshots.
This issue is obviously beyond where you are at not only in your understanding, but in your understanding of how to study some things out.
Believe me, get past these, and you'll find other issues demanding even greater clarity as to the what of a thing and or how to approach its' study.
I suspect that will be the case for each us til our last breath.
You seek to do battle with those on your own side. What's wrong with you?
I'm beginning to think "Danoh" is a disrupter and a "double-Agent" of sorts.
TweetyBird
New member
I also prayed that I would not receive something not of God, but I did, because I was sitting under deception.
Hope is not faith and faith is not hope. Faith is believing in God's promise that He will never let us go and He will work everything out for the good, even if it's bad for us. Hope is never letting go in spite of, not because of. There is no promise that God is going to heal because of either faith or hope.
Biblicaly God has promised that all those who call upon His Name will be saved. Check out Rom 10.
I do believe what Peter said and quoted from Isaiah 53 - that Jesus healed us from sin. The context Peter words there is about sin, not physical healing ... we have all gone astray.
I am pretty sure that God is not waiting for the lottery to heal someone. We live in corruptible bodies. We are going to get sick and we are going to die. You can believe in faith all you want for healing, but it is still up to God. There is no system that can guarantee healing - not a single one. In fact, many of the great faith teaching healers died of disease, not to mention how many are wearing glasses and preaching divine health. It makes me chuckle every time I see one them. Some, like Kenneth Copeland took to wearing contacts to hide his failing eyes. :crackup:
Healing is not part of the atonement. Let me explain why. In the OT animals were killed and their shed blood burned on the altar atoned for sin. It as a shadow of what was to come in Christ - that His blood shed would atone for sin. Never, in the history of Israel's sin sacrifices was there ever the implication of physical healing.
Never in the NT does Jesus ever state that His death was to get you healed. Not once, not ever. There is no verse in the entire NT that says so. So you latch onto 1 Peter 2:24, dance and prance like it's the greatest revelation and claim your healing. If you would actually read the passage, you would see that it's not about healing the body at all - it's not even hinted at.
You don't even realize that the Bible has many texts that refer to "healing from sin". Isa 53 does not say that Jesus died for healing either. Every verse in Isa 53 that refers to His sacrifice is about dying for our transgressions, sin, and iniquities. Not once does it say He died for our earthly bodies to get healed.
Isa 53
Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God, and afflicted.
5
But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.
6
All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own way;
and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth.
8
He was taken from prison and from judgment:
and who shall declare his generation?
for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9
And he made his grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death;
because he had done no violence,
neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities.
12
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he bare the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
Eve NEVER heard the "Grace Gospel." It didn't exist until the Ascended Lord Jesus Christ gave it to Paul. Nang, your ignorance astounds me.
Why?
Because you had no issue with Musti allegations against fellow MADs but I am somehow excluded from that; right?
Get annoyed all you want - YOU are not the issue.
You only think you are.
You are duplicitous in this nonsense of yours because in your ignorance you make you and some yours the issue.
Grow up.
Everyone is subject to needing a thing having to be pointed out to them.
Just a matter of fair play; not your one sidedness...once more.
One sided grace legalism on your part in your ignorance.
I was never a member of YOUR TOL Elitist MAD Club.
Never.
As I believe in both sides of a story.
Yours is tyranny.
TweetyBird
New member
Job and Paul are both real good examples.
The only two who have the ability to heal are God and satan. Which one do you think you are?
Battle is YOUR projection.
Out of your issue with having a thing pointed out to you that you might be better off thinking through a bit more.
THAT is your so called united "front."
You are wrong in this.
You seem to be a little on the "dual personality" side of the street. You have a "Love/hate" relationship with MADs. You're also immature and childlike. You've lost ALL credibility with me.
The only One Who can and has limited one thing or another at sundry times and in divers manners is God.
TweetyBird
New member
This a big problem - because people are unaware of the old covenant/Mosaic Law - they interpret verses out of that context in the OT. The OT is a not an unlimited pool of verses to snitch and snatch from to make up doctrines like God has to heal you.
17
Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.
18
Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat;
and they draw near unto the gates of death.
19
Then they cry unto the Lord in their trouble, and
he saveth them out of their distresses.
20
He sent his word, and healed them,
and delivered them from their destructions.
Your projection is your loss.
Paranoia is one of your problems. You think MADs are after you. You probably walk down the street and have to keep glancing over your shoulder.
Your "loss" is your mind.
TweetyBird
New member
Faith has nothing to do with getting healed due to meds. The meds heal, you don't have to faith in them. That is just goofy thinking.
Danoh, you present a horrendous example for MADs. You're at war with MADs more than anybody else.