ECT Some tools for diagramming sentences

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Unfortunately these post formats won't support the type of spacing so you can see parts of speech labeled in the line above, let alone the usual line diagrams.

You might try ( )s with these labels inside, not bothering with articles.


The dog (N) chased (V) the cat (DO) up (P) a tree (OP).

N = noun
V = verb
DO = direct object
P = preposition (a particle that relates two things in space and time)
OP = object of a preposition
AD = adjective, a modifier, descriptor, etc. of a N or DO or IO or OP
AV = adverb, a modifier, descriptor of a V


To illustrate an Indirect Object (IO), we will avoid a prepositional phrase and use:

The boy (N) gave (V) the dog (IO) a bone (DO).


To test to see if 'dog' or 'bone' is the DO, try writing it with a prepositional phrase:

The boy gave a bone to the dog.
vs
The boy gave a dog to the bone.


...So 'bone' is the DO, and dog is IO. The thing handled was the bone.


Likewise, we could have dropped the reference to the dog:

The boy gave a bone.


If it was a story, or paragraph, we would know from CONTEXT that the bone was given to a dog. We would also know the dog was not given to a friend.


So at least some degree of diagramming sentences can be done here on TOL with scripture passages with these tools.
 
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In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God.

In (P) the beginning (OP) was (V) the Word (N), the Word (N) was (V) with (P) God (OP), and (C) the Word (N) was (V) God (SP)


SP = simple predicate; there is no object.
 
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Tambora

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Not sure why you would list "Word" as a noun when there are more nouns in the verse than just "Word".

Perhaps what you meant to inform is that "Word" is the subject (the one doing the action of the verb) in all three clauses of that verse.
Sooooooooo, when there is more than one noun in a clause (as there are in each clause of this verse), what is the grammatical rule to determine which of those nouns is the subject​ in each clause?
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Tambora said:
Not sure why you would list "Word" as a noun when there are more nouns in the verse than just "Word".

Perhaps what you meant to inform is that "Word" is the subject (the one doing the action of the verb) in all three clauses of that verse.
Sooooooooo, when there is more than one noun in a clause (as there are in each clause of this verse), what is the grammatical rule to determine which of those nouns is the subject​ in each clause?
:popcorn:
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Are you questioning IP the Great?
 
patrick jane

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Interplanner said:
Unfortunately these post formats won't support the type of spacing so you can see parts of speech labeled in the line above, let alone the usual line diagrams.

You might try ( )s with these labels inside, not bothering with articles.


The dog (N) chased (V) the cat (DO) up (P) a tree (OP).

N = noun
V = verb
DO = direct object
P = preposition (a particle that relates two things in space and time)
OP = object of a preposition
AD = adjective, a modifier, descriptor, etc. of a N or DO or IO or OP
AV = adverb, a modifier, descriptor of a V


To illustrate an Indirect Object (IO), we will avoid a prepositional phrase and use:

The boy (N) gave (V) the dog (IO) a bone (DO).


To test to see if 'dog' or 'bone' is the DO, try writing it with a prepositional phrase:

The boy gave a bone to the dog.
vs
The boy gave a dog to the bone.


...So 'bone' is the DO, and dog is IO. The thing handled was the bone.


Likewise, we could have dropped the reference to the dog:

The boy gave a bone.


If it was a story, or paragraph, we would know from CONTEXT that the bone was given to a dog. We would also know the dog was not given to a friend.


So at least some degree of diagramming sentences can be done here on TOL with scripture passages with these tools.
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patrick jane said:
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PJ,
we unconsciously diagram all the time, otherwise we don't know what a person or sentence means. That's why we ask questions until we do. We have people here reading things but not diagramming them and they don't know what they mean when they are done.
 
Nick M

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was the Word....

The noun, the subject is the logos, the Logic. And John states the subject as a state of being. Past tense of "is", since he is describing at the beginning. Just like describing oneself as a state of being "I AM".
 
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Rom 15:8-9 (after I tell you--compound)

Christ (N) has become (V) a servant (DO) of the Jews (IO) on behalf of God's truth (AD phrase conn. to 'servant'),
to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs (AV phrase conn. to 'has become'),
so that Gentiles may glorify God for his mercy (AV phrase conn. to 'has become'),
as it is written (4 examples) (AV phrase conn. to 'may glorify')
 
SaulToPaul 2

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Rom 15:8-9 (after I tell you--compound)

Christ (N) has become (V) a servant (DO) of the Jews (IO) on behalf of God's truth (AD phrase conn. to 'servant'),
to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs (AV phrase conn. to 'has become'),
so that Gentiles may glorify God for his mercy (AV phrase conn. to 'has become'),
as it is written (4 examples) (AV phrase conn. to 'may glorify')
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Neat.
 
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