SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT

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Bright Raven

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Faith is a work.

As for that scripture you wrongly use, it means NOT OF THE WORKS OF THE LAW. That is the PURIFICATION WORKS that no longer save.

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​​​​​​Our salvation depends solely upon Jesus Christ. He is our substitute, taking sin’s penalty (2 Corinthians 5:21); He is our Savior from sin (John 1:29); He is the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2). The work necessary to provide salvation was fully accomplished by Jesus Himself, who lived a perfect life, took God’s judgment for sin, and rose again from the dead (Hebrews 10:12).

The Bible is quite clear that our own works do not help merit salvation. We are saved “not because of righteous things we had done” (Titus 3:5). “Not by works” (Ephesians 2:9). “There is no one righteous, not even one” (Romans 3:10). This means that offering sacrifices, keeping the commandments, going to church, being baptized, and other good deeds are incapable of saving anyone. No matter how “good” we are, we can never measure up to God’s standard of holiness (Romans 3:23; Matthew 19:17; Isaiah 64:6).

The Bible is just as clear that salvation is conditional; God does not save everyone. The one condition for salvation is faith in Jesus Christ. Nearly 200 times in the New Testament, faith (or belief) is declared to be the sole condition for salvation (John 1:12; Acts 16:31).

One day, some people asked Jesus what they could do to please God: “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus immediately points them to faith: “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent” (John 6:28-29). So, the question is about God’s requirements (plural), and Jesus’ answer is that God’s requirement (singular) is that you believe in Him.

Grace is God’s giving us something we cannot earn or deserve. According to Romans 11:6, “works” of any kind destroys grace—the idea is that a worker earns payment, while the recipient of grace simply receives it, unearned. Since salvation is all of grace, it cannot be earned. Faith, therefore, is a non-work. Faith cannot truly be considered a “work,” or else it would destroy grace. (See also Romans 4—Abraham’s salvation was dependent on faith in God, as opposed to any work he performed.)

Suppose someone anonymously sent you a check for $1,000,000. The money is yours if you want it, but you still must endorse the check. In no way can signing your name be considered earning the million dollars—the endorsement is a non-work. You can never boast about becoming a millionaire through sheer effort or your own business savvy. No, the million dollars was simply a gift, and signing your name was the only way to receive it. Similarly, exercising faith is the only way to receive the generous gift of God, and faith cannot be considered a work worthy of the gift.

True faith cannot be considered a work because true faith involves a cessation of our works in the flesh. True faith has as its object Jesus and His work on our behalf (Matthew 11:28-29; Hebrews 4:10).

To take this a step further, true faith cannot be considered a work because even faith is a gift from God, not something we produce on our own. “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God” (Ephesians 2:8). “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him” (John 6:44). Praise the Lord for His power to save and for His grace to make salvation a reality!
 

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That is a site with a denomination with false doctrines.

​​​​​​Our salvation depends solely upon Jesus Christ. He is our substitute, taking sin’s penalty (2 Corinthians 5:21); He is our Savior from sin (John 1:29); He is the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2). The work necessary to provide salvation was fully accomplished by Jesus Himself, who lived a perfect life, took God’s judgment for sin, and rose again from the dead (Hebrews 10:12).

Jesus cleans us, and it means we no longer have to do the works of the law---which are the PURIFICATION works of the law. Purify means to clean. The people used to have to clean them selves, but since Jesus, HE DOES THE CLEANING WORKS NOW.

It doesn't mean we don't have to obey anymore. It means we don't have to clean ourselves any more.

The Bible is quite clear that our own works do not help merit salvation.

That is a lie that goes against God. It is a teaching that tries to stop people from obeying Jesus and getting saved.

Jesus tells us who he saves and why. Jesus tells us exactly what to do to be the kind of person he saves.

It is a beautiful thing to follow Jesus' teachings and become one he saves.


We are saved “not because of righteous things we had done” (Titus 3:5). “Not by works” (Ephesians 2:9). “There is no one righteous, not even one” (Romans 3:10). This means that offering sacrifices, keeping the commandments, going to church, being baptized, and other good deeds are incapable of saving anyone. No matter how “good” we are, we can never measure up to God’s standard of holiness (Romans 3:23; Matthew 19:17; Isaiah 64:6).
WRONG! There is no one righteous who hasn't sinned at least once! That is what those scriptures mean.

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The Bible is just as clear that salvation is conditional; God does not save everyone. The one condition for salvation is faith in Jesus Christ. Nearly 200 times in the New Testament, faith (or belief) is declared to be the sole condition for salvation (John 1:12; Acts 16:31).

One day, some people asked Jesus what they could do to please God: “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus immediately points them to faith: “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent” (John 6:28-29). So, the question is about God’s requirements (plural), and Jesus’ answer is that God’s requirement (singular) is that you believe in Him.

We have to believe that we have to OBEY THE COMMANDS OF THIS MAN JESUS NOW, AND NOT JUST GOD THE FATHER.

No such thing as God telling us not to obey anything except to have faith.
Grace is God’s giving us something we cannot earn or deserve. According to Romans 11:6, “works” of any kind destroys grace—the idea is that a worker earns payment, while the recipient of grace simply receives it, unearned. Since salvation is all of grace, it cannot be earned. Faith, therefore, is a non-work. Faith cannot truly be considered a “work,” or else it would destroy grace. (See also Romans 4—Abraham’s salvation was dependent on faith in God, as opposed to any work he performed.)

JESUS SAYS what to do! He doesn't say don't do anything except have faith!

Jesus says he saves those WHO OBEY his teachings.

Suppose someone anonymously sent you a check for $1,000,000. The money is yours if you want it, but you still must endorse the check. In no way can signing your name be considered earning the million dollars—the endorsement is a non-work. You can never boast about becoming a millionaire through sheer effort or your own business savvy. No, the million dollars was simply a gift, and signing your name was the only way to receive it. Similarly, exercising faith is the only way to receive the generous gift of God, and faith cannot be considered a work worthy of the gift.

That is why a person SHOULD NOT use their own made up analogies that are not in the Bible---because their analogies are ignorant and not from God.


True faith cannot be considered a work because true faith involves a cessation of our works in the flesh. True faith has as its object Jesus and His work on our behalf (Matthew 11:28-29; Hebrews 4:10).

True faith the article says! Faith is a cessation OF OUR PURIFICATION WORKS SUCH AS CIRCUMCISION AND THE SACRIFICE OF ANIMALS.

Jesus tells us to HAVE FAITH. He doesn't say we can't have it unless he gives it to us supernaturally.

We have to HAVE FAITH that JESUS' SHED blood on the cross washes us of the SINS WE REPENT OF DOING.

To take this a step further, true faith cannot be considered a work because even faith is a gift from God, not something we produce on our own. “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God” (Ephesians 2:8). “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him” (John 6:44). Praise the Lord for His power to save and for His grace to make salvation a reality!
The grace is that WE HAVE TO ONLY BELIEVE Jesus cleans us. That is the grace and the gift. It sure doesn't mean we don't have to do right and abstain from sin.

Good grief the person who wrote that article has been tricked by Satan.
 

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.That is a site with a denomination with false doctrines.

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This is from Gotquestions.org website


​​​​​Mission Statement of Got Questions Ministries:

"Got Questions Ministries seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually related questions through an internet presence."

GotQuestions.org is a ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, evangelical, theologically conservative, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions.

We will do our best to prayerfully and thoroughly research your question and answer it in a biblically based manner. It is not our purpose to make you agree with us, but rather to point you to what the Bible says concerning your question. You can be assured that your question will be answered by a trained and dedicated Christian who loves the Lord and desires to assist you in your walk with Him. Our writing staff includes pastors, youth pastors, missionaries, biblical counselors, Bible/Christian college students, seminary students, and lay students of God’s Word.

All of our answers are reviewed for biblical and theological accuracy by our staff. Our CEO, S. Michael Houdmann, is ultimately accountable for our content, and therefore maintains an active role in the review process. He possesses a Bachelor’s degree in Biblical Studies from Calvary University, a Master’s degree in Christian Theology from Calvary Theological Seminary, and is currently pursuing a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. Please go here for more information on our expertise.

May God richly bless you as you seek to study His Word and grow in your walk with Him! (Romans 11:36)

They admit that everything they believe is taught to them by a denomination. That is what seminary is. They brag on their education from men when they say a "Bachelor's degree",
 

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They admit that everything they believe is taught to them by a denomination. That is what seminary is. They brag on their education from men when they say a "Bachelor's degree",

If you could read you would see that they are non-denominational
 

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If you could read you would see that they are non-denominational

Non denominations doesn't mean they don't have beliefs that have doctrines from denominations. Maybe you should read what non denominational really means.

Did you read what the article said?

It says this:
All of our answers are reviewed for biblical and theological accuracy by our staff. Our CEO, S. Michael Houdmann, is ultimately accountable for our content, and therefore maintains an active role in the review process. He possesses a Bachelor’s degree in Biblical Studies from Calvary University, a Master’s degree in Christian Theology from Calvary Theological Seminary, and is currently pursuing a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. Please go here for more information on our expertise.


Where do you get that it is not the same doctrines from denominations? Nondenominational is a farce. It is a denomination in itself, just like other denominations.

Do you know what Calvary is?
 

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More distraction, bluff and bluster.... :yawn:


You got the "He came" part right.



You are totally blind to scripture and abuse it to your own disgrace.

Anybody who detracts from Jesus and points others away from doing what he says is doing a very sinful thing.
 

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Straw-man lies... all you do is constantly lie.

Do we have to obey what Jesus taught when he walked the earth? Does Paul teach Gentiles something different?

STOP SAYING I LIE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU TEACH THAT Paul curseable stuff.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


You claim you like Paul, but he puts a curse on you.
 

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Do we have to obey what Jesus taught when he walked the earth? Does Paul teach Gentiles something different?

STOP SAYING I LIE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU TEACH THAT Paul curseable stuff.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

You claim you like Paul, but he puts a curse on you.
Jesus says that salvation BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH is a gift of God. You think that you're smarter than Jesus.

P.S. Galatians 1 is explained here: https://theologyonline.com/blogs/right-divider/2441093-
Unfortunately, you won't understand it.
 

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Paul puts a curse on you and that is the truth.

Just another LIE on your gigantic pile.

I preach the gospel of the grace of God per Paul.

You preach the blurred mashed "gospel" of confusion.

Paul calls salvation BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH a gift of God... but you don't like that.

Jesus sent Paul.
 

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Just another LIE on your gigantic pile.

I preach the gospel of the grace of God per Paul.

You preach the blurred mashed "gospel" of confusion.

Paul calls salvation BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH a gift of God... but you don't like that.

Jesus sent Paul.

Paul does put a curse on you, read for yourself.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


Now does Paul preach the same gospel as what Jesus taught and what the apostles to the Lamb taught?
 

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Paul does put a curse on you, read for yourself.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
I preach the SAME gospel that Paul did. You preach a messed up mix of things that you do not even understand.

Now does Paul preach the same gospel as what Jesus taught and what the apostles to the Lamb taught?
Paul received REVELATION that the others did not have. Jesus taught Paul new things that you cannot understand.
 

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I preach the SAME gospel that Paul did. You preach a messed up mix of things that you do not even understand.


Paul received REVELATION that the others did not have. Jesus taught Paul new things that you cannot understand.

Let's get to the bottom of it...did Paul EVER preach what the other apostles preached? There was a time you said he did; you change your mind?
 
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