musterion
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You never will. He avoids anything that draws attention to his ecumenical loyalty to any unbeliever who happens to call him/herself "conservative." I suspect he's a Log Cabin Republican who just won't fess up.
Pastor Robert Jeffress Says Those Who Refuse to Vote in Presidential Election....
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You never will. He avoids anything that draws attention to his ecumenical loyalty to any unbeliever who happens to call him/herself "conservative." I suspect he's a Log Cabin Republican who just won't fess up.
I cant get an answer on that from anyone. Ive seen a lot of people say that, but when asked to pinpoint it, get nothing. (Its your christian duty to vote...)
If its a duty, there should be pretty clear scripture on it.
drbrumley
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Is it now? Now where is that commandment (duty) referenced?
musterion
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ACW flips furiously through his Living Bible.
"I know it's in here...toward the back...I think..."
Gives up, points across room.
"LOOK! QUEERS!"
Ducks out of thread.
drbrumley
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OMG, there went my soda.....:chuckle:
Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I notice that you didn't pull up any verses that embraced anarchy or leaders who are evil, so yes, Godly people have a responsibility to elect/choose Godly men and women as their leaders.
Kinda like where He talks about pedophilia and heroin use? Oh wait, not everything in Holy Scripture is written in black and white. The verses that I provided in my first link covers what is expected of people when they choose their leaders. Must they be active in choosing their leaders?
I guess I missed (again) where God says that He wants anarchy and evil leaders to rule.
So God sets the standard for civil government, but wants nations to fail?
I notice that you didn't pull up any verses that embraced anarchy or leaders who are evil, so yes, Godly people have a responsibility to elect/choose Godly men and women as their leaders.
Kinda like where He talks about pedophilia and heroin use? Oh wait, not everything in Holy Scripture is written in black and white. The verses that I provided in my first link covers what is expected of people when they choose their leaders. Must they be active in choosing their leaders?
I guess I missed (again) where God says that He wants anarchy and evil leaders to rule.
So God sets the standard for civil government, but wants nations to fail?
drbrumley
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No. They are already "failed".....you just can't get your head around it is the issue.
musterion
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God isn't shedding grace on any nation today, only on people. Man has abundantly proved he cannot govern himself for long without corruption and injustice, so He's already reckoned them all as failures. Including this one.
drbrumley
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Well done.
I heard Trump say in one of his capaigns that he would seek to overturn Roe. vs. Wade.
Of course, Hillary said that decision of Trumps would be oppression against women and that she would NEVER support overturning Roe vs. Wade.
drbrumley
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“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
drbrumley
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I heard that too, have yet to see his plan on it though.. Of course Hillary being Hillary
That's on man, not God.
I guess I missed in all of those verses and passages where God set the standard for civil government and it's leaders and finished with:
"But you're going to fail anyway, so never mind."
You've been tutored by me numerous times on the God's 3 ordained institutions for the governance of men: The Church, the family and civil government. All 3 have separate but equally important roles. When one fails, the others do as well.
Was that after he said "Planned Parenthood does very good things"?
I haven't heard his plan either.
But the sheer fact that he outright stated it on a public debate is rather rare for a politician to do, especially so close to election time.
It took balls in this day and age.
Argue with God on it, i can back my opinion with His word as i did.
And changed his position on abortion 5 times in 3 hours.
Yep, the flip flopper can really be trusted to do what he says.
He mentioned the good things they do, but said abortion was not one of those good things.
drbrumley
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“But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, ‘Give us a king to judge us.’ So Samuel prayed to the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, ‘Heed the voice of the people… for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me that I should not reign over them… they have forsaken Me and served other gods…’”
Hence, your civil government being created.....
Hence, your civil government being created.....