NFL 2015
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Potential draft headlines:
Denver High on Ray Pick
Will Winston Play Good (like a first round pick should)?
St. Louis Makes Great '16 Draft Pick
Cleveland Still Cleveland
Denver High on Ray Pick
Will Winston Play Good (like a first round pick should)?
St. Louis Makes Great '16 Draft Pick
Cleveland Still Cleveland
The Steeler's first five draft picks (by conference):
1) SEC
2) SEC
3) SEC
4) Big Ten
5) Big Ten
:think:
1) SEC
2) SEC
3) SEC
4) Big Ten
5) Big Ten
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Well....it appears Tom Brady and the Patriots will forever be known as cheaters.
There will always be an asterisk next to Tom Brady, and always an asterisk next to the Patriots Super Bowl victories.
Brady should be suspended for at least a year.
There will always be an asterisk next to Tom Brady, and always an asterisk next to the Patriots Super Bowl victories.
Brady should be suspended for at least a year.
The team will take a hit of some sort and Tom, given his public non mea culpa, will likely take one as well. Doesn't diminish his greatness at the position, but it does, I think, permanently undo the nonsensical greatest ever conversation. If here, then what else, to what extent and how often? And in a career where so much of their success came by inches and a fg...it has to taint his and the team's legacy.
The Cowboys have made a few high risk/high reward moves, but their O line may well dominate for a while now. If they can get consistent rb play this could be an even better year for them than last.
A liar, a cheater, and a murderer walk into a bar.........the Patriots must be in town.
NFL suspends Patriots QB Tom Brady four games over Deflategate.
Daniel1611
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They should've suspended Brady for a year and banned belichick from the league. The should've also suspended anyone who touches the ball on a consistent basis and the whole coaching staff for at least 8 regular season games.. The pats have been caught cheating multiple times. Its time to make an example of them
There's no precedent for that long a suspension and Bill was found guiltless, as was Kraft. The funny thing is that Brady really didn't get a competitive advantage when you look at how he performed after the balls were properly inflated. If anything, the advantage went to the rbs who could hold onto the ball better and so the Pats had an unprecedented run of fewest fumbles by far in the NFL.
And I doubt that was remotely on Brady's mind. No, if he hadn't played it off this would be much less ado about nearly nothing.
I don't care for the cumulative notion. This was, by all accounts, between a few people who will suffer for it, though Brady least of them, really. Except in terms of his reputation.
I feel sorry for Kraft and can't stop shaking my head that Tom would do something that stupid (the response to it, not the thing itself as I'm not entirely sure he meant to do more than press the edge of the rules envelope).
Daniel1611
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There's no precedent for a team being caught cheating 4 times
No one knows (except Brady) how many games, or seasons this had been going on.
For all we know, Brady was doing this since 2001.
And Sean Peyton was suspended one year for being guiltless. Peyton was suspended one year for not knowing what was going on, and somehow Belicheat is found guiltless for allegedly not knowing what was going on.
That doesn't make any sense.
BTW, if you think Belicheat didn't know this was going on, I have some prime swampland in Alabama for sale.
Las Vegas just adjusted the point spread for the Patriots-Steelers NFL opener on Sept 10th.
Prior to the Wells report, the Patriots were favored by 6. Today the line is 2.
Also, the over/under went from 53 to 49
I find it hard to believe that Brady playing QB vs. Jimmy Garoppolo playing QB is only worth 4 points.
Prior to the Wells report, the Patriots were favored by 6. Today the line is 2.
Also, the over/under went from 53 to 49
I find it hard to believe that Brady playing QB vs. Jimmy Garoppolo playing QB is only worth 4 points.
A liar, a cheater, and a murderer walk into a bar.........the Patriots must be in town.
People don't always root for rapists but when they do, they're Pittsburgh fans.:yawn:
Thanks to a combination of Indy whining, officiating incompetence, and the demonstrably shady activities of two equipment grunts, the greatest quarterback (shut up, TH: I am in no mood) of his generation's been dragged through the mud and a team that was exonerated on one hand has been slapped with penalties far and above whatever possible transgression was committed.
The Colts might not be able to tackle, block, run, or pass against New England, but golly: They can tattle like no one else. Well done, Indy. Well done. You're acting as classy as your ownership.
The NFL's officials might have gotten a memo, might have lost track of footballs, and might have used them anyway in a game when they should have been on the highest of alerts. They may have had to rely on the confused recall of one Walt Anderson, who screwed up in a pretty significant fashion on a pretty big stage. Well done, boys. Glad you all brought your A-game.
This all makes me think of tall poppy syndrome. Sustained success galls. Inability to take down the king infuriates lessers. And so, finally, in this age of mediocrity, when parity is defied and when success is assured only to a handful of teams (and even then, only truly to one head coach/QB combo), the league decides in its own arrogance and envy to drop the hammer.
This is a bunch of mediocrities gritting their teeth and finally getting their way because they can't figure out how to solve a simple problem: Beat Belichick and Brady on the field, do it convincingly, do it consistently, and end them fair and square.
Instead of play on the field, they decided to bring in the lawyers.
What an obscene, foul, stinking, reeking, laughable, despicable, asinine fiasco.
The Colts might not be able to tackle, block, run, or pass against New England, but golly: They can tattle like no one else. Well done, Indy. Well done. You're acting as classy as your ownership.
The NFL's officials might have gotten a memo, might have lost track of footballs, and might have used them anyway in a game when they should have been on the highest of alerts. They may have had to rely on the confused recall of one Walt Anderson, who screwed up in a pretty significant fashion on a pretty big stage. Well done, boys. Glad you all brought your A-game.
This all makes me think of tall poppy syndrome. Sustained success galls. Inability to take down the king infuriates lessers. And so, finally, in this age of mediocrity, when parity is defied and when success is assured only to a handful of teams (and even then, only truly to one head coach/QB combo), the league decides in its own arrogance and envy to drop the hammer.
This is a bunch of mediocrities gritting their teeth and finally getting their way because they can't figure out how to solve a simple problem: Beat Belichick and Brady on the field, do it convincingly, do it consistently, and end them fair and square.
Instead of play on the field, they decided to bring in the lawyers.
What an obscene, foul, stinking, reeking, laughable, despicable, asinine fiasco.
You seem to forget about Spygate.
Belichick and Brady have a history of cheating.
So, the million dollar question is: have they been successful because they cheat?
We will never know.
Nixon would have easily won the '72 election without illegally bugging the Democrats, but he did it anyway. One can argue the Patriots would have won what they won without illegally videotaping other teams and illegally deflating footballs, but we will never know.
Sorry Granite, but there's always going to be an asterisk.
Hmm, not really--everyone and their brother's ready to remind us.
To be clear: Spygate had nothing to do with Brady and the Wells Report exonerated Belichick in this latest mess. If we're going to be particular or, ya know, accurate.
Spygate's gains were negligible at best by Belichick's own admission and Brady played better in the AFC Championship and Super Bowl with properly inflated footballs. Look: If one's inclined to hate New England, nothing on earth will ever convince you otherwise. But Brady beat the league's best secondary when it counted, and you can't chalk every bit of success they've had to cheating. See: The Butler Did It.
Not where it counts.
just get over it
but
keep paying your quarterback 20 million each year
and
keep wondering why the pats keep winning
they must be cheating
but
keep paying your quarterback 20 million each year
and
keep wondering why the pats keep winning
they must be cheating
You don't know that.
If they had illegal video of another team's defensive scheme, and they showed the video to Brady before the game, and Brady was able to recognize the scheme before the snap during the game, then the illegal video made Brady a better QB.
The NFL never blamed anyone but Belichick for Spygate. Ever. You don't get to pick and choose when you take the league at their word.
Quoth the Spartans: If.
You do remember their record improved after Spygate, right? I guess now the only possible explanation (beyond superior play, prep, and coaching) is that a magic deflated football is responsible for all of it. Quite likely.:yawn:
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