Martin Luther Comments on Free Will

[glorydaz]

As Luther notes...

"...in things which pretain to salvation or damnation, he has no "Free-will," but is a captive slave, and servant, either to the will of God, or to the will of Satan"

We serve only one of two masters, God or the devil.

The lost serve the latter, as it is written, the lost...

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9);
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23);
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19);
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12);
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6);
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1);
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3);
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14); and
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).

Clearly from the above sampling of Holy Writ, it is clear that the lost have no moral ability to seek after the righteousness of God. It is only when God the Holy Spirit regeneratively replaces their lost hearts of stone with one of flesh (Eze. 36:26) that the lost are given the moral ability to believe.

AMR

I see the before and after....what is missing from your post is the being persuaded by the preaching of the Gospel.

 

[glorydaz]

Yes, this is a public Forum and you are a public nuisance. You can't even get along with your Calvinist brother.

:thumb:

 

[Bright Raven]

You teach that saved people who God sees in Christ can loose their Salvation !

Nope, can't loose your salvation. We agree?

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Whoever doesn't believe in predestination doesn't actually believe in an omnipotent God.
One pulls God down to man rather then God pulling us to Him for all those who labor under free will theology- a KEY POINT in which Protestants initially spoke on, in part to undermine the pope and, two, to undermine the flip floppery of going in and out of salvation which the Church teaches.

Simply put, without predestination, Protestantism fails. Arminian-based churches are theologically impaired.

 

[beloved57]

I see the before and after....what is missing from your post is the being persuaded by the preaching of the Gospel.

You have not been persuaded to believe the Gospel !

 

[beloved57]

Nope, can't loose your salvation. We agree?

When did you believe the Gospel ?

 

[Bright Raven]

When did you believe the Gospel ?

You are the most disruptive person on this forum. How about that. That fits. Heathen heretic!

 

[beloved57]

You are the most disruptive person on this forum. How about that. That fits. Heathen heretic!

See you at the Judgment !

 

[Bright Raven]

See you at the Judgment !

Read and heed.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5 King James Version (KJV)

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

 

[beloved57]

Read and heed.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5 King James Version (KJV)

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

You don't believe that passage !

 

[Bright Raven]

You don't believe that passage !

Oh yes I do and you are headed to be with your father the devil if you don't change

 

[beloved57]

Oh yes I do and you are headed to be with your father the devil if you don't change

Looks like he is your pops !

 

[Bright Raven]

Looks like he is your pops !

Trying to be funny? Didn't work disciple of the devil.

 

[TulipBee]

Oh yes I do and you are headed to be with your father the devil if you don't change

Those that God never drew don't change.

They stay in the Earthy normal state.

 

[Robert Pate]

Those that God never drew don't change.

They stay in the Earthy normal state.

To teach that God is not willing that all should be saved, 2 Peter 3:9, is to teach that God is a murderous tyrant that delights in sending lost souls to hell.

What you say about God tells us that you do not believe that he is just, merciful and righteous. You believe that he gives life so that he can destroy it in hell.

It is not humanly possible for you to have saving faith in this kind of a God. Therefore you are lost.

 

[beloved57]

To teach that God is not willing that all should be saved, 2 Peter 3:9, is to teach that God is a murderous tyrant that delights in sending lost souls to hell.

What you say about God tells us that you do not believe that he is just, merciful and righteous. You believe that he gives life so that he can destroy it in hell.

It is not humanly possible for you to have saving faith in this kind of a God. Therefore you are lost.

More blasphemy against God of Israel !

 

[Bright Raven]

More blasphemy against God of Israel !

:loser: You're lost!

 

[TulipBee]

can you answer the question?

how were you saved?

I was saved 506,724 years ago when God knew me before I was born.

I existed then and had plenty of time to work the bugs out before birth.

 

[Nanja]

More blasphemy against God of Israel !

Amen!

Mat. 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven:
for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

~~~~~

 

[beloved57]

To teach that God is not willing that all should be saved, 2 Peter 3:9, is to teach that God is a murderous tyrant that delights in sending lost souls to hell.

What you say about God tells us that you do not believe that he is just, merciful and righteous. You believe that he gives life so that he can destroy it in hell.

It is not humanly possible for you to have saving faith in this kind of a God. Therefore you are lost.

More blasphemy against God !