MAGA Hats And The Easily-Triggered Left

[glorydaz]

It was Musterion who hit my reputation a million times actually, but when the same posters repeat over each other it's hard to keep track.
My rep bar is decent otherwise. And, you want to talk about some 'derangement syndrome' but your all the one's so easily triggered just the same as liberals. I simply unveiled some reality to your extreme leaning. Whole lot of group attacking; not really all that much content- and desperately affirming every measly thing stated along the way

Nonsense. We presented the facts....tons of videos and arguments, but you refuse to hear.

That's the bottom line.

Heck, even the MSM is having to back down.....but not Crucifer. :nono:

 

[ok doser]

Toronto's mainstream media:

Now ruled by emotions rather than reason, America’s democracy is doomed

We no longer live in a democracy. We live in an “emocracy” – where emotions rather than majorities rule, and feelings matter more than reason. The stronger your feelings, and the better you are at working yourself into a fit of indignation, the more influence you have.

There was a time when appeals to emotion over facts were regarded as the preserve of the populist right. But truthiness – the quality of being ideologically convenient, though not actually true – is now bipartisan. Last week on the CBS show 60 Minutes, host Anderson Cooper confronted freshman congresswoman and social media sensation Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez with some of her many factual errors. Her reply was that of a true emocrat: “I think,” she replied, “that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually and semantically correct than about being morally right.”




https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...-than-reason-americas-democracy-is/?cmpid=rss

 

[Crucifer]

Nonsense. We presented the facts....tons of videos and arguments, but you refuse to hear.

A few minute video of a lengthy event is not evidence of anything except that perhaps it was blown out of proportion. This is common sense, but you don't want to accept that.

As far as 'other arguments' go, I just stated that they are all the same- not much content, little bit of denial, WHOLE lot of beating straw men..

Heck, even the MSM is having to back down.....but not Crucifer. :nono:

The media just takes what they are given, it's all about getting a response. It's not like their 'backing down' is in some inability to argue, they simply got what they wanted.

Notice that the wall has magically not been some emergency crisis lately :chuckle:
Before this incident it was like a Mexican comet was about to slam into America and flatten everybody.

 

[ok doser]

more:

Just how harmful emocracy is became clear last weekend. “‘It was getting ugly’: Native American drummer speaks on his encounter with MAGA-hat-wearing teens.” “Boys in ‘Make America Great Again’ hats mob Native elder at Indigenous Peoples march.” The former headline was in The Washington Post, the latter The New York Times. The reports were calculated to elicit a torrent of emotion. And they did.

What actually happened was as follows: A group of (nearly all white) boys from Covington Catholic High School, Kentucky, were in Washington to attend a rally organized by March for Life, an anti-abortion not-for-profit organization. They ended up in an altercation near the Lincoln Memorial with a small group of Native Americans.

One of the latter, Nathan Phillips, told reporters that he had heard the boys chant “Build that wall” and, as an opponent of U.S. President Donald Trump’s border wall, he had approached them to remonstrate. We now know – thanks to other eyewitnesses and a much longer video – what really happened. The Native Americans were indeed abused, but by a handful of members of the Black Hebrew Israelites, an African-American sect.

It was the BHI preacher who directed the attention of the Native Americans at the boys. The boys did not chant “Build that wall” but responded to the abuse now being aimed at them by the BHIs with good-natured school sports chants. When Mr. Phillips and a few other Native Americans marched toward them, beating drums, the boys at first joined in, dancing to the drumbeat. Only then did things get strange.

Still drumming, Mr. Phillips approached one of the boys, Nick Sandmann. Clearly uncomfortable and uncertain what to do, Mr. Sandmann froze, but Mr. Phillips went right up to him, beating the drum so close to his face that the boy was blinking. His forced smile, it is clear, was one of embarrassment, not contempt.

Meanwhile, the BHIs kept up their stream of abuse directed at the kids, calling them future “school shooters” and saying, “Your President is a homosexual.” The boys did not respond in kind; they booed the BHI preacher only when he used a homophobic slur.

The Twitter account that helped spread the video, @2020Fight, purported to belong to a Californian teacher named “Talia.” The fact that the profile photo was of the Brazilian actress and blogger Nah Cardoso did not trouble The Washington Post editor who assigned reporters to cover the story. Nor did he worry when they filed copy based largely on testimony from Mr. Phillips. This scoop was too deliciously truthy to waste time on tedious things such as investigation and corroboration.

With equal haste, numerous journalists offered judicious commentary. By Sunday, Mr. Sandmann was receiving “physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults”. On Tuesday, his school was forced to close.

Emocracy manifests itself in many places: on campuses, for example, where trigger warnings and safe spaces exist to protect students’ feelings, or in the #MeToo movement, where “I believe her” often trumps due process. But it is the media – both social and traditional – that have made emocracy ubiquitous.

 

[ok doser]

A few minute video of a lengthy event is not evidence of anything except that....

...except that you still haven't bothered to view the hour and a half long video fool provided :doh:

 

[glorydaz]

A few minute video of a lengthy event is not evidence of anything except that perhaps it was blown out of proportion. This is common sense, but you don't want to accept that.

As far as 'other arguments' go, I just stated that they are all the same- not much content, little bit of denial, WHOLE lot of beating straw men..



The media just takes what they are given, it's all about getting a response. It's not like their 'backing down' is in some inability to argue, they simply got what they wanted.

Notice that the wall has magically not been some emergency crisis lately :chuckle:
Before this incident it was like a Mexican comet was about to slam into America and flatten everybody.

:blabla:

And the wall....way past crisis. The drugs, the diseases, and illegals entering our country like a sieve. We're about to become England....Lord help us.

 

[glorydaz]

...except that you still haven't bothered to view the hour and a half long video fool provided :doh:

I've watched, and I'm sure you have, Doser, the interviews of the Indian Activist and the high school boy. Anyone with half a brain can tell who is telling the truth and who isn't.

No common sense nowadays. :nono:

 

[ok doser]

We're about to become England....Lord help us.

they've already begun distributing the forms to schedule your dental remediation and IQ lowering

 

[Crucifer]

And the wall....way past crisis. The drugs, the diseases, and illegals entering our country like a sieve. We're about to become England....Lord help us.

Um, no.
You've been sucked into a current fashion of fearmongering. Just like with global warmists in the late 90's, you've been persuaded into acting like some catastrophe is coming based on the rhetoric of some guy trying to get into office.

But nice job switching immediatley back to your superficial dismay as soon as it's mentioned :darwinsm:

 

[Crucifer]

Anyone with half a brain can tell who is telling the truth and who isn't.

Anyone with a full brain cell can tell that the high school kid is just pressured between two things and has to SAY all the right things because of it. The bishop of the school has to report to a diocese, and his parents payed a pretty penny for him to be there.
Therefore, there's no certainty that even a word the kid said was even really his own. Where you see a 'a shell-shocked victim', I see a 'kid simply walking on eggshells'.
Also, with Phillips, it's not some courtroom junction- he said something that was inconsistent with something before, there's a big chance that he's simply gone over the event in his own head and had simply came to more focused conclusions.

The fact is that your bias had completely taken over from the get go. Nothing short of absolute holy perfection from the students will suffice for you.

 

[ok doser]

they've already begun distributing the forms to schedule your dental remediation and IQ lowering

and 30% of us have to turn mooslim

and gay

 

[glorydaz]

Um, no.
You've been sucked into a current fashion of fearmongering. Just like with global warmists in the late 90's, you've been persuaded into acting like some catastrophe is coming based on the rhetoric of some guy trying to get into office.

But nice job switching immediatley back to your superficial dismay as soon as it's mentioned :darwinsm:

If you weren't blind you'd see it. Move to California and count the illegal homeless in the streets. Look up here in Eugene Oregon....the illegals are welcomed, on the dole, and now they're having to provide them housing because the homeless crises is hitting here already. Undocumented illegal aliens swarming over our land. Given sanctuary....not handed over to ICE. They'll be voting. You're blind, Crucifer. :nono:

 

[glorydaz]

Anyone with a full brain cell can tell that the high school kid is just pressured between two things and has to SAY all the right things because of it. The bishop of the school has to report to a diocese, and his parents payed a pretty penny for him to be there.
Therefore, there's no certainty that even a word the kid said was even really his own. Where you see a 'a shell-shocked victim', I see a 'kid simply walking on eggshells'.
Also, with Phillips, it's not some courtroom junction- he said something that was inconsistent with something before, there's a big chance that he's simply gone over the event in his own head and had simply came to more focused conclusions.

The fact is that your bias had completely taken over from the get go. Nothing short of absolute holy perfection from the students will suffice for you.

Man you are something else.:dunce:

Clearly, you should never be on a jury.

 

[glorydaz]

they've already begun distributing the forms to schedule your dental remediation and IQ lowering

They're overrun with migrants of every type.

I'd say their IQ's have already been effectively lowered, and our schools are taking care of that as we speak.

 

[ok doser]

.... Nothing short of absolute holy perfection from the students will suffice for you.

nah - that's just silly

i'd just like to see a recognition that these were good kids who did nothing unusual, certainly nothing like the initial description

 

[Crucifer]

If you weren't blind you'd see it. Move to California and count the illegal homeless in the streets. Look up here in Eugene Oregon....the illegals are welcomed, on the dole, and now they're having to provide them housing because the homeless crises is hitting here already. Undocumented illegal aliens swarming over our land. Given sanctuary....not handed over to ICE. They'll be voting. You're blind, Crucifer. :nono:

Those are local issues, and mostly in places who've historically had a lot of Latino influence. Why would you be shocked that a city called SAN DIEGO or LOS ANGELES would be caring for Latinos :chuckle:

I'm not blind, you're just following a bogus narrative.

 

[Kit the Coyote]

:blabla:

And the wall....way past crisis. The drugs, the diseases, and illegals entering our country like a sieve. We're about to become England....Lord help us.

According to government stats, the numbers of illegals entering the country peaked in the late 90s and has been declining sharply ever since. The number of illegals living in the US peaked around the mid-2000s and is declining.

There is a crisis right now but it is a humanitarian one with a slight increase in South American refugees entering the country seeking to gain asylum, in order to make that claim they are turning themselves in to authorities as soon as they arrive. Many of these are families and our existing detainment facilities built to house individual workers crossing the border are not equipped to manage them.

Most of the drug traffic is entering through existing ports of call or via smuggling systems designed to defeat a wall.

In short, a wall that will take a decade or more to build is not an effective answer to the current crisis and as such a waste of resources that could be better used to deal with the said crisis.

 

[ok doser]

According to government stats, the numbers of illegals entering the country peaked in the late 90s and has been declining sharply ever since. The number of illegals living in the US peaked around the mid-2000s and is declining.

see - bammy was good for something

tanking the economy made the US a less attractive destination for those wishing to better their lot

expect a turnaround once America is made great again :banana:

 

[ok doser]

Leftist Congresswoman could be hit with libel suit over false claims about Covington teens

WASHINGTON, D.C., January 28, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — After facing the possibility of a libel lawsuit, U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minnesota, deleted a tweet last Wednesday that assailed the students of Covington Catholic High School.

Omar, who is the first Somali-American elected to Congress, also defended the black supremacists who taunted the teenage Kentucky students with racist and homophobic slurs.



https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/l...e-hit-with-libel-suit-over-false-claims-about

 

[ok doser]

insane leftist Canadian (Hamilton is near Toronto)

No apologies, just life lessons for conservative U.S. teens

A glimpse into the perilous state of communication in America


Should the students at the confrontation near the Washington Monument get an apology? Nick Sandmann, for one, is revising his story to make himself look like a victim. No apology for you, Nick, John Kneeland writes. Welcome to the street. - KC NOLAND/YouTube

Weeks after high school students faced off against Indigenous war veteran Nathan Phillips, conservative media is demanding that progressives apologize to the young tykes, who have been condemned on social media. Nick Sandmann, filmed standing inches from Phillips with a smirk

objection - assumes intent

on his face, claims he is misunderstood and a good Catholic boy. The students also claim they were not the aggressors. A long video of the events proves otherwise

objection - you're a retard

, but also offers a glimpse into the perilous state of communication in America.

The "Black Hebrew Israelites" accused of starting the conflict are provocateurs, but inconsistent ones. One minute they were saying misogynistic things about women, the next, they addressed as sister an older black woman who approached them. They quoted frequently from the Bible, yet swore like sailors. They did talk about race frankly and directly.

Contrary to what has been claimed, they never moved from the spot where they were standing.

i haven't seen anybody claim that the BHI guys moved from their spot :idunno:

But their leader talked non-stop for almost two hours. As Indigenous people nearby formed a prayer circle, he spoke of awakening "our people" to the truth of the Bible. He called black people the Chosen People and stated that Jesus Christ was not white.

"Where's the damn peace at?" he asked. "Go to the casinos. Go to the reservations. It's worse than the projects. It's worse than Compton. It's worse than Brownsville, Brooklyn."

Do white students from a private school in suburban Kentucky understand what's happening in Brownsville?

why would you expect 16 year old kids to "understand what's happening" in a community 800 miles away?

Not likely, which probably explains their behaviour.

what behavior? you mean when they attacked the BHI guys? that didn't happen

When a small group of them in MAGA hats first came into view, the Washington Monument in the background, BHI's leader ridiculed them mercilessly. It's no secret that to many minority people, MAGA really means Make America White Again.

that's because many minority people are retarded


And the race-baiting and violence against minorities that has occurred at Trump rallies is well documented.

BHI are actually equal-opportunity insult artists. When an Indigenous man came up and, for some reason, swore at them, one of them called him Uncle Tomahawk. But then the discussion evolved into whether the word hate was in the Bible, while nearby, a spectator blew on a conch horn. That's the street. It's all about cross-currents.

"You wanna talk about R Kelly," said the leader, referring to sexual molestation. "Why don't we talk about the Roman Catholic Church?" The ongoing theme was apparently white hypocrisy. "You wanna build a damn wall for Mexico?" he asked. "When's the last time you saw a Mexican shoot up a school?

A guy on a motorized skateboard began repeatedly buzzing BHI. They rebuked him for invading their space.

Meanwhile a huge crowd of students had collected on a set of steps behind them. The students began walking down the steps. BHI's leader turned to face them. "You don't see the angels around us," he said. "You couldn't touch us if you wanted to."

Then Nathan Phillips walked up, beating his drum. He stopped about 30 feet from the students, who quickly approached and surrounded him.

the video evidence clearly shows that you are wrong

One student made chopping motions with his hands.

right - this is not against the law in america

This is when a video camera closer to Sandmann caught his star turn. You could almost feel the students thinking, We have the numbers. We do what we want.

you're a retard


"Black Israelites have never moved from their positions," said the leader. Your mortgages, your parents' house, everything was given to you by the bloodshed of black people." The students began chanting again.

"Y'all step back," said the leader as the students moved closer. The leader began referring to 25-to-life, code for the harsh prison sentences black people often get, while the students laughed.

Then suddenly, as upon some signal

:doh: you really are a retard - their chaperones called for them to board the buses, which had just arrived

, the students turned and left, singing as one, "We're going home!"

As darkness fell, BHI remained on the street, along with a few stragglers. A woman came up and said "We love you, but ..."

"Then give us our land back," said the leader, still defiant, referring to the betrayal of black southerners after the civil war. "Forty acres and a mule."

I've been here all day, said the woman, and left.

So should the students get an apology?

from retards like you, who lie about what happened and assign intent to others to satisfy your prejudices? Nah - no apology wanted. Expect to be sued for slander/defamation/libel

pansy canadians seek apologies - americans sue your pants off :banana:



https://www.thespec.com/opinion-sto...just-life-lessons-for-conservative-u-s-teens/