glassjester
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Is White Privilege Real?
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Yes, you're right.
ok doser
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| http://lancasteronline.com/news/pen...cle_14995884-ef0c-11e6-89fc-ab2e1c82ddfb.html Elizabethtown College student group will wear white puzzle piece pins to think about 'white privilege' A group of students at one local college is looking to raise awareness about what it means to live with “white privilege.” The Elizabethtown College Democrats are launching a project Saturday in which they will ask students and others to wear a white puzzle piece pin every day to encourage them to think deeply about how racial identity affects their life, directly or indirectly. The project was borrowed and adapted from a Lutheran pastor’s similar effort in Wisconsin. |
ok doser
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if i wear a white pin, will people do things for me?
glassjester
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How's any of that supposed to help anything or anyone?
annabenedetti
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That's not the same thing as the predominant power structure. You know that.
Maybe you'll get a cookie? :idunno:
annabenedetti
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I think a key idea here is awareness. Chances are, those who are least aware of having white privilege are most likely to argue that there's no such thing.
Raising awareness, getting a conversation going.
ok doser
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i guess you need to explain what you think you mean when you use the term
Because they take it for granted.
glassjester
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Get a bunch of white people talking about how privileged they are?
And then what? Go out and give a bunch of black guys small business loans?
What will they actually accomplish?
Rather to understand the defacto privleges you've complacently enjoyed and subseqently taken as the norm is not experienced universally. Perhaps this revelation may change some hearts and minds.
You're asking different questions, but you aren't addressing the answer to this one. If you think there's data that women or the elderly or kids get disparate treatment by all means make the case.
What differences? You're assuming an undemonstrated correlation. I'm speaking to one actual date.
We know they weren't attacking anyone.
You'd expect one of two answers. In a perfect world they'd resemble the population. But then, blacks are involved in a disproportionate number of crimes. While it's true that some of that is a distortion founded on the disparate and demonstrated tendencies of prosecutors to bring charges more readily against minorities, specifically blacks, than their white counterparts on the same charges (especially drug related) it's still higher than a representational slice.
So say it might look like the actual statistics on criminal activity. Is it your contention that an 80/10 split is representative and reasonable?
On stop and frisk
See my above.
Yes.
Not necessarily, but it would make more sense. Isn't that the argument so many of you are making on the right when it comes to terrorism and profiling? And the fact that it isn't what's happening, that worse than that it isn't even proportionate, speaks to bias.
I'm not advocating profiling. I'm noting troubling statistical truths that don't reflect a reasonable methodology on the part of the police.
I can tell you that studies of arrests, convictions and sentencing show the same sort of disparate treatment when the facts of the case and elements are the same. That's one reason this information didn't particularly surprise me.
Simply untrue.
That's a peculiar sentence. It's missing pieces. Racial differences isn't the phrasing. Differences in treatment where race is the dissimilar element and the elements of a crime are equally present would by definition be a matter of racial bias.
annabenedetti
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This.
annabenedetti
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Are whites in positions of authority and/or status (social, corporate, governmental, etc.) in a proportion greater than their proportion of the population both historically and continuing in the present day? I think the answer to that is a clear yes.
see quip's post
ok doser
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:doh: it's the same data
applied in the same way
Town: "if there's a disparity, there must be a bias"
ok doser
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obama was the nation's top LEO for eight years
now, tell me what "power structures" you're interesting in discussing - law enforcement?