Scripture does not say that Jesus had lamb at his last meal. God through Jesus instituted a NT Passover of bread and wine and he told his disciples to observe the bread and wine in memory of him.
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Scripture does not say that Jesus had lamb at his last meal. God through Jesus instituted a NT Passover of bread and wine and he told his disciples to observe the bread and wine in memory of him.
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According to Luke 22:7-16 Christ's last supper was a Passover.
According to Matt 26:3-5, John 13:1-4, John 18:28, and John 19:14, Christ
ate his Passover ahead of the Jews' Passover.
I suppose it's mean-spirited of me to enjoy watching people unable to
harmonize John's gospel with the other three; but I just can't help myself.
Anyway; party on dudes, and be excellent to each other.
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According to Luke 22:7-16 Christ's last supper was a Passover.
According to Matt 26:3-5, John 13:1-4, John 18:28, and John 19:14, Christ
ate his Passover ahead of the Jews' Passover.
I suppose it's mean-spirited of me to enjoy watching people unable to
harmonize John's gospel with the other three; but I just can't help myself.
Anyway; party on dudes, and be excellent to each other.
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Jesus' Passover had nothing to do with his last meal. Scripture doesn't reveal what he ate because it doesn't matter.
Paul explains it this way:
Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others and one is hungry and another is drunk. What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.
For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat, this is My body which is broken for you, do this in remembrance of Me.”
In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:20-26 NKJV)
For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat, this is My body which is broken for you, do this in remembrance of Me.”
In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:20-26 NKJV)
Jesus instituted the NT Passover that we are to observe. Jesus' Passover ended animal sacrifice.
WeberHome
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With your imagination, you should be writing children's books.
Work with the facts at hand jamie; don't be inventing new ones out of thin
air, nor tailoring scripture to fit your size; if you know what I mean.
And especially beware of stretching Paul's writings. In doing so, you might just
as well put a gun to your head.
†. 2Pet 3:15-16 . . Our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom
that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in
them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to
understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other
Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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With your imagination, you should be writing children's books.
Work with the facts at hand jamie; don't be inventing new ones out of thin
air, nor tailoring scripture to fit your size; if you know what I mean.
And especially beware of stretching Paul's writings. In doing so, you might just
as well put a gun to your head.
†. 2Pet 3:15-16 . . Our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom
that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in
them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to
understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other
Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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This is all nonsense! you have all the days mixed up and Scripture does not support the days you list.
achduke
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Where is your proof?
You are the one making up things here, not her.
Knock off the font designs, and do not add font designs to quoted posts in standard font, you dope!
achduke
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Fonts do not work on tap talk. They make it hard to quote.
My proof is those who know me know I know what I am talking about. I have no concern to prove anything to you.
achduke
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For the sake of others who might read it and wonder, not understanding. To let them know this is not the Christian perspective.
I wrote this last night to follow post #140 but my internet was out, so here it is now:
People have the same confusion with regard to John 19:14.
Joh 19:14 And it was the preparation[paraskeue] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
Mark defines 'paraskeue' in Mk 15:42 as the day before the Sabbath.
This can only mean the seventh day Sabbath, or else he would have given further explanation. Paraskeve which is dervived from the Koine Greek 'paraskeue', means the sixth day in Greece, today, and has had that significance since the 1st century, because it had become a technical term which meant the day on which the Jews made preparations for the seventh day Sabbath. These were things such, as feeding their livestock, cooking meals, taking baths, lighting lamps, etc, which could not be done on the Sabbath, therefore, they had to 'prepare' before sunset.
John is simply telling us, in vs 14, that it was the seventh day Sabbath preparation during the week long Passover feast when Pilate presented the Lord Jesus to the people. There would be only one 'paraskeue' during the week long Passover feast and this was it. Therefore, John is informing us as to what day Christ was crucified which he demonstrates to be the day before the weekly Sabbath.
'paraskeue' as used in all four gospel accounts, always refers to the day before the seventh day Sabbath.
If one grabs hold of this truth, then it all falls into place and only then does John truly harmonize with the other three accounts.
If you would like further detail on this perspective, study Alfred Edersheim's "The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah" and A.T. Robertson's "Commentary on the Gospel of John".
People have the same confusion with regard to John 19:14.
Joh 19:14 And it was the preparation[paraskeue] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
Mark defines 'paraskeue' in Mk 15:42 as the day before the Sabbath.
This can only mean the seventh day Sabbath, or else he would have given further explanation. Paraskeve which is dervived from the Koine Greek 'paraskeue', means the sixth day in Greece, today, and has had that significance since the 1st century, because it had become a technical term which meant the day on which the Jews made preparations for the seventh day Sabbath. These were things such, as feeding their livestock, cooking meals, taking baths, lighting lamps, etc, which could not be done on the Sabbath, therefore, they had to 'prepare' before sunset.
John is simply telling us, in vs 14, that it was the seventh day Sabbath preparation during the week long Passover feast when Pilate presented the Lord Jesus to the people. There would be only one 'paraskeue' during the week long Passover feast and this was it. Therefore, John is informing us as to what day Christ was crucified which he demonstrates to be the day before the weekly Sabbath.
'paraskeue' as used in all four gospel accounts, always refers to the day before the seventh day Sabbath.
If one grabs hold of this truth, then it all falls into place and only then does John truly harmonize with the other three accounts.
If you would like further detail on this perspective, study Alfred Edersheim's "The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah" and A.T. Robertson's "Commentary on the Gospel of John".
Fine, but Mark informed us what he meant by 'the preparation/paraskeue' in Mk 15:42 and it means the day before the Sabbath. If Mark meant any other Sabbath than the seventh day, he would have said so, otherwise his effort in defining the term was a wasted effort.
achduke
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I come here to dialogue and learn. How are we suppose to know your position if you never state it? We may not agree but it is helpful if we understand.
This doesn't matter because 'paraskeue' is the day before the seventh day Sabbath.
Correct and three cheers for steko!
All we need to know is Jesus was crucified on Friday and was buried that night. He rose from the dead on Sunday. There is nothing complicated about this!
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You may know, or not know, the Jews are the most secular of people, because they place far more value on their heads than on their heats.
They are a people of great intellect and they make wonderful movies.
If there was no explanation needed then why did Mark furnish an explanation in Mk 15:42?
There are explanations provided for many things in all four gospels.
The Lord Jesus was born under the law and kept it.
He and His disciples ate the Passover lamb at GOD's appointed time for all Israel.
achduke
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That is not what Strong's thinks.
paraskeué: preparation, the day of preparation (for a Sabbath or feast)