ECT For everyone that says "I obey Jesus."

God's Truth

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You are to recognize that none of your obedience and righteousness saves you.
Only the obedience and righteousness of one does.

Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


HINT: That one ain't you.

No way is Paul saying we are saved by faith without obeying!

The Jews used to justify themselves by doing the purification works; now only have faith that Jesus' blood cleans, is what cleans, of the sins you repent of doing.
 

God's Truth

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Ummm, stick to the point made ---- ie. the ERROR of GT's statement:



Goes right along with her other errouneous statement she keeps making ------ "We must obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded". ..... and ..... "All of Jesus' commands are for everyone at all times".

Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

No matter how many times her error is pointed out, she will throw up every distraction and rabbit hole she can think of to avoid admitting her mistake.
She makes untrue statements and you don't care.

You are making the false statements, about me and more importantly, about the Holy Bible.
 

God's Truth

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Claiming to do what you do not, and cannot do is wrong.
Professing what you do not have is wrong.
Saying your dead faith in yourself is what saves you is wrong.
Pretending you are "serving the Lord" by preaching your false gospel is DEAD WRONG.

You preach we don't have to do what the King says.

You preach that obeying Him is to not obey Him.
 

God's Truth

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Yep, they still think they can EARN salvation by their works.
Paul's whole point is that grace cannot be bought or earned through works, as grace is UNMERITED favor and given freely.

If you had the most important company coming to your house, would you clean it first?

Jesus doesn't come to make his home with just anyone

He didn't even come until John prepared the way for him by having the people first repent of their sins.
 

glorydaz

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The mind of Christ is to have an obedient mind.

Rather than make stuff up, you should actually search the scripture. The mind of Christ speaks of the deep things of God that are revealed to us by the Spirit of God.

Unfortunately, you have no clue what the deep things of God are. The best the man of flesh can come up with is to obey in the flesh, and that's your message. Over and over the same message, and it will never save anyone. Those in the flesh cannot please God. All that obedience you claim is saving you is keeping you away from salvation.

1 Cor. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:15-16 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.​
 

Tambora

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If you had the most important company coming to your house, would you clean it first?

Jesus doesn't come to make his home with just anyone

He didn't even come until John prepared the way for him by having the people first repent of their sins.
You are still ignorant of what the word 'repented' means in scripture.
The word does not mean "stopped sinning" are you continually and erroneously procalim.
 

glorydaz

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If you had the most important company coming to your house, would you clean it first?

Jesus doesn't come to make his home with just anyone

He didn't even come until John prepared the way for him by having the people first repent of their sins.

You can't clean your own "house". That's the point.

Once again, you prove your faith is in yourself. :nono:
 

Tambora

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No way is Paul saying we are saved by faith without obeying!

The Jews used to justify themselves by doing the purification works; now only have faith that Jesus' blood cleans, is what cleans, of the sins you repent of doing.
Is it by the obedience of one or two, GT?????

Let scripture settle it for you.

Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


That one still ain't you, GT.
 

popsthebuilder

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Is it by the obedience of one or two, GT?????

Let scripture settle it for you.

Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


That one still ain't you, GT.
What do you do with a gift that is precious? Do you keep it close or toss it aside?

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God's Truth

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Rather than make stuff up, you should actually search the scripture. The mind of Christ speaks of the deep things of God that are revealed to us by the Spirit of God.

Unfortunately, you have no clue what the deep things of God are. The best the man of flesh can come up with is to obey in the flesh, and that's your message. Over and over the same message, and it will never save anyone. Those in the flesh cannot please God. All that obedience you claim is saving you is keeping you away from salvation.

1 Cor. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:15-16 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.​

You have not proved or disproved anything that I said.
 

Tambora

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If you had the most important company coming to your house, would you clean it first?

Jesus doesn't come to make his home with just anyone

He didn't even come until John prepared the way for him by having the people first repent of their sins.
Is that a ceremonial cleaning of your house?
I thought you taught all the cleaning ordinances were done away with at the cross????
 
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