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The rich man didn't sin by coveting.
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The rich man didn't sin by coveting.
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The rich man didn't sin by coveting.
GT, is a General divided who gives an order, say, to dig in and excavate a trench system around a city when once that trench system is completed he gives the order to rush forward and take the city?
Is that General divided for giving two different orders at two different times?
Is a General capable of giving two different orders at two different times?
How much more is God capable of giving two different orders at two different times, if a human general is capable of doing so?
turbosixx
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Thanks for the detailed write up but I suggest your conclusion that it is not talking about the law of Moses because it says carnal is not correct. If we look at the context of those two passages, it's talking about the law of Moses.
In Hebrews 7, if we go up a few verses we see he's talking about the law of Moses.
7:11 11 11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
God determined Levites were to be priest, not man. Melchisedec had no fleshly(carnal) priestly lineage.
7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Jesus couldn't be a priest under the law of Moses because he was from the tribe of Judah. Therefore the law had to be changed.
7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
In Hebrew 9, if we look at the context by going up a few verses we see again he's talking about the law of Moses.
9:6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. 7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
These things were ordained by God not man.
9:6 8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: 9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
The law of Moses could not forgive sins thus making the people perfect. That's why it needed to be replaced by one that could.
Like Paul says here.
Acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
turbosixx
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I agree the law still functions to teach us of sin today. That wasn't the only function of the law. Before Jesus' DBR, when someone realized they had sinned, thanks to the law, what were they to do?
Lev. 5:5 when he realizes his guilt in any of these and confesses the sin he has committed, 6 he shall bring to the Lord as his compensation for the sin that he has committed, a female from the flock, a lamb or a goat, for a sin offering. And the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin.
Is that how it still functions today as it always has?
The law doesn't have to be in effect to learn from it but if it is in effect them one must obey it.
Paul says the Jews have been released from the law.
Rom. 7:1 Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? 2 For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. 3 Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
No, you did not, and you lied-again-the dbr was hidden from the 12, prior to its occurrence, habitual liar, and you were given the scriptures, over 50 times, deceiver.In Mt.-John, prior to the dbr, the 12 had no idea of the impending dbr. It was hid from them :
"For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him." Mark 9:31-32 KJV
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken." Luke 18:31-34 KJV
"For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead." John 20:9 KJV
Disgusting liar, asserting that:
- Murder, theft,lying....................................... .......................................are all OK, as there is no law, as it was allegedly abolished, to condemn them,
-everyone is saved, as when there is no law, there is no trangression, and sin is not imputed, where there is no law.
-the lost cannot come to know what sin is, and the law is not a schoolmaster, to bring them to Christ, as it was abolished....
Wolf, biblical buffoon, devil child-on record.
andyc
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Theft, murder, adultery, lying, idolatry, homosexuality etc etc has has been set aside?
God doesn't care about that stuff anymore?
No, it's not-you were shown, chapter, verse, deceiver.
You're on record also: murder, rape, theft, sodomy................................=are all OK, as there is no law to show that it is sin....and everyone is saved, as where there is no law, there is no transgression, and sin is not imputed, where there is no law, and there is no law, to lead others to Christ.
That is satanic, you wicked pawn of satan.
Vs.
No, you lied-again-you assert that the law was nailed to the cross.
Drunk, or demon possessed-no other option.
Catch that drunken stupor assertion? We can read what sin is by reading the law, but the law was nailed to the cross, as it does not exist anymore, according to this moron, child of the devil.
You're a demon possessed, lush, clown.
turbosixx
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I was shown you can pull verses out of context and make up things.
There's a difference between a learning from a law and that law being in effect.
Have you not read? We are under law but not the law of Moses.
I Cor. 9:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law.
See that, Paul says he was not under the law.
9:21To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.
We are under the law of Christ. You can't be under both.
Gal. 5:2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. 4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace
glorydaz
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And you highlighted the correct word there, Dan.
Self effort is what keeps man from entering into God's REST.
More lying-you assert that the law was abolished/nailed to the cross, habitual liar.
Sophistry...deceit. True, Christians are not under the law of Moses as a "rule of life"; but that is not equivalent to saying that the law was "nailed to the cross/abolished"-the devil taught you that-not the LORD God.
The law still serves to bring the lost to Christ, "the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers," to Christ, and convict them/show them what sin is...
1 Timothy 1:9 KJV Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Deception. You, on record:
Murder, rape, theft, sodomy................................=are all OK, as there is no law to show that it is sin....and everyone is saved, as where there is no law, there is no transgression, and sin is not imputed, where there is no law, and there is no law, to lead others to Christ.
Slower:
LORD God did not do away with His "holy law and then abolish it," as you satanically cite Colossians 2:14 KJV. Colossians 2:14 KJV does not say that the LORD God did away/abolished the law-it says that "the handwriting of ordinances" was blotted out-this is not a reference to the law, that was blotted out(see my other post).
If the law was blotted out/did away, everyone would be saved:
1 John 3:4 KJV Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
So, one of the definitions of sin is " the transgression of the law."
With me?
Now:
Romans 4:15 KJV because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Romans 5:13 KJV (for until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Thus, since sin is the transgression of the law, and, if it is true that there is no more "God's holy law," then, where there is no law, there is no transgression, whereby anyone can be accused, and sin cannot be imputed, if there is no law. Secular wise, for eg., if there is no law against speeding/going over a certain speed, no one can be charged with speeding/breaking a law-there is no law against speeding-no transgression.
Shuck this satanic "the law was abolished/did away with/nailed to the cross deception, and certainly not employ Colossians 2:14 KJV, in making your "argument," as "the handwriting of ordinances" is not a reference to "God's holy law."
Slower:
Romans 3:20 KJV Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Galatians 3 KJV
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
....no longer apply, according to you, as you assert, on record, that the law no longer leads others to Christ, as the school master, since it no longer exists, and that others cannot know what sin is, since the law no longer exists.
The Ten Commandments, part of the law of Moses, which you say is abolished, are for the specific purpose of defining sin. This law, which defines sin, is described by Paul as being as "holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good"(Romans 7:12 KJV).
You say the law is abolished, "nailed to the cross,"and thus assert that everyone is saved, demon, as if there is no law, there is no transgression, and sin is not imputed, where there is no law.
You are on record-that is your satanic opinion, while I gave you chapter, and verse, in which to soak that "puffed up as a bullfrog in heat" head of yours.
post cross:
Galatians 3:24-25 KJV
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
You: "Jesus"abolished the law/nailed it to the cross, but it was resurrected after the cross, leading Paul, others, the lost to Christ.
Moron.
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turbosixx
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With no one that matters
Admits that he is a pawn of satan-on record.
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Your analogies aren't from God.
Jesus is not divided. He is not going to give two opposing gospels.
Your a clown, so stuff your 3rd grade cliches, you moron, as you wouldn't know the difference, between the book of Jeremiah, and the song "Jeremiah was a bullfrog."
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John 2:22
After He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this. Then they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.
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The law WITH ITS RULES AND REGULATIONS are no more as for being a command to still do. God nailed them to the cross.