Ephesians 1:4, 5, In the Light of the Historical Gospel of Jesus Christ

Robert Pate · Dec 17, 2015

False Prophet said:
We should be holy and without blame before him in love. The goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart. Like the holy one we should holy in all, all, all of our conduct. Who shall stand in the presence of the Lord accept he who has clean hands and a pure heart. Jesus is coming back for a church without spot, blemish, or wrinkle. Behold I am coming quickly my reward is with me to render to everybody according to what he has done.
3 But there must be no sexual sin among you, or any kind of evil or greed. Those things are not right for God’s holy people. 4 Also, there must be no evil talk among you, and you must not speak foolishly or tell evil jokes. These things are not right for you. Instead, you should be giving thanks to God. 5 You can be sure of this: No one will have a place in the kingdom of Christ and of God who sins sexually, or does evil things, or is greedy. Anyone who is greedy is serving a false god. Eph 5
Such doctrines that give a false security to the harlot christian are devil inspired teachings that do not conform us to godliness.

To be "Holy and without blame before him in love" means that you are "In Christ". It is Christ that makes us "Holy and without blame before him in love".

Nanja · Dec 17, 2015

Robert Pate said:
To be "Holy and without blame before him in love" means that you are "In Christ". It is Christ that makes us "Holy and without blame before him in love".

Only the portion of humanity, The Sheep, which were Chosen in Union with Christ
and predestinated to the Adoption of Sons, before the foundation of world,
are holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:3-5.

However, the rest of mankind are tares which the devil sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39;
the cursed goats, which are destined to be cast into the lake of fire Mat. 25:33, 41; Rev. 21:8.

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Robert Pate · Dec 17, 2015

Nanja said:
Only the portion of humanity, The Sheep, which were Chosen in Union with Christ
and predestinated to the Adoption of Sons, before the foundation of world,
are holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:3-5.

However, the rest of mankind are tares which the devil sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39;
the cursed goats, which are destined to be cast into the lake of fire Mat. 25:33, 41; Rev. 21:8.

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How are you holy and without blame before him in love?

Nanja · Dec 17, 2015

Robert Pate said:
How are you holy and without blame before him in love?

Nanja

Only the portion of humanity, The Sheep, which were Chosen in Union with Christ
and predestinated to the Adoption of Sons, before the foundation of world,
are holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:3-5.

However, the rest of mankind are tares which the devil sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39;
the cursed goats, which are destined to be cast into the lake of fire Mat. 25:33, 41; Rev. 21:8.

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beloved57 · Dec 17, 2015

Robert Pate said:
How are you holy and without blame before him in love?

See my threads, that has been explained already in detail !

Robert Pate · Dec 18, 2015

Nanja said:
Nanja

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We are holy and without blame before him in love because of the meritorious work of Christ that was done in our name and on our behalf.

jamie · Dec 18, 2015

Robert Pate said:
We are holy and without blame before him in love because of the meritorious work of Christ that was done in our name and on our behalf.

Since Jesus said he could do nothing on his own, who really deserves credit for the meritorious work of Christ? Would it be his God?

His God said through him that we should have no God ahead of or over him.

It seems like you do. Give credit where credit is due (to God).

beloved57 · Dec 18, 2015

Robert Pate said:
We are holy and without blame before him in love because of the meritorious work of Christ that was done in our name and on our behalf.

You dont believe in Jesus Christ, you teach that millions upon millions for whom He lived and died shall wind up in the Lake of fire for their sins in unbelief !

beloved57 · Dec 18, 2015

Nanja said:
Nanja

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However, the rest of mankind are tares which the devil sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39;
the cursed goats, which are destined to be cast into the lake of fire Mat. 25:33, 41; Rev. 21:8.

Absolutely, the Vessels of Wrath made for and prepared for destruction Rom 9 !

Nanja · Dec 18, 2015

beloved57 said:
Absolutely, the Vessels of Wrath made for and prepared for destruction Rom 9 !

Yep, and they are also the ungodly remnant
now alive being reserved for Judgment Day!

2 Pet. 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations,
and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished

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beloved57 · Dec 18, 2015

Nanja said:
Yep, and they are also the ungodly remnant
now alive being reserved for Judgment Day!

2 Pet. 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations,
and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished

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Correct !

Robert Pate · Dec 18, 2015

jamie said:
Since Jesus said he could do nothing on his own, who really deserves credit for the meritorious work of Christ? Would it be his God?

His God said through him that we should have no God ahead of or over him.

It seems like you do. Give credit where credit is due (to God).

Keep in mind that Jesus was both God and man in one person.

He had to be all human to save us. He also had to be all God to save us.

beloved57 · Dec 18, 2015

Robert Pate said:
Keep in mind that Jesus was both God and man in one person.

He had to be all human to save us. He also had to be all God to save us.

You teach that millions for whom He loved and died for to Save, wind up in hell for their sins anyway !

jamie · Dec 18, 2015

Robert Pate said:
Keep in mind that Jesus was both God and man in one person.

He had to be all human to save us. He also had to be all God to save us.

Jesus asked to be excused, a perfectly human request. Who wants to be beaten and crucified, certainly not Jesus.

Robert Pate · Dec 18, 2015

jamie said:
Jesus asked to be excused, a perfectly human request. Who wants to be beaten and crucified, certainly not Jesus.

Be thankful that God's judgment fell on Jesus and not you.

beloved57 · Dec 18, 2015

Robert Pate said:
Be thankful that God's judgment fell on Jesus and not you.

You teach that millions for whom Christ died and abolished death for, shall yet wind up in the second death, that is a contradiction!

Bright Raven · Dec 18, 2015

beloved57 said:
You teach that millions for whom Christ died and abolished death for, shall yet wind up in the second death, that is a contradiction!

Do I believe Jesus is Lord?

Robert Pate · Dec 18, 2015

beloved57 said:
You teach that millions for whom Christ died and abolished death for, shall yet wind up in the second death, that is a contradiction!

You are really confused, but everything will be made clear to you in the judgment.

beloved57 · Dec 18, 2015

Robert Pate said:
You are really confused, but everything will be made clear to you in the judgment.

To say that Christ abolished death for them He died for, and then turn around and teach as you do, that they shall go into the second death, is a contradiction !

Bright Raven · Dec 18, 2015

beloved57 said:
To say that Christ abolished death for them He died for, and then turn around and teach as you do, that they shall go into the second death, is a contradiction !

the second death is for those who don't accept Jesus sacrifice.

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