Donald Trump will WIN BIG!

bybee

New member
That sounds more than a little delusional.



I've had fewer companies than he has, but I haven't even had one bankruptcy, and he's run four companies into the ground. But he lost other people's money, not his.

If that's "business prowness", how do you think that will work when he gets control of trillions of our dollars?

Yep. Beware anyone who's great at getting out of trouble.

By the time the current dictator is out of office choices may be severely limited. The next "president" will inherit a desperate situation. Of course he/she could continue the litany of blaming Bush....
 

rocketman

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I believe you should remove that picture. It would appear that you are making fun of someone who cannot help being born with an infirmity.

Given that liberals are all about the feelings of others & not showing offense this picture could be interpreted as being mean spirited to somebody, no? :chuckle:
 

MarcATL

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By the time the current dictator is out of office choices may be severely limited. The next "president" will inherit a desperate situation. Of course he/she could continue the litany of blaming Bush....
How can President Barack Obama be BOTH feckless and a dictator? Sounds like you really need to make up your mind. Or perhaps you suffer from bipolar disorder?
 

Danoh

New member
I read this excellent book back in the 1992 – it is one heck of a well-researched expose of Trump written way back when.

Anyone considering voting for the man might want to read it.

From the link:

http://www.nationinstitute.org/featuredwork/books/1283/trump:_the_deals_and_the_downfall/

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Trump: The Deals and the Downfall

By Wayne Barrett

The true story of Trump's rise to the top is told for the first time by Village Voice reporter Barrett, who has been following the Trump story for nearly a decade.

No figure has come to symbolize the excesses of the 1980s as vividly or as powerfully as Donald Trump. As master builder, as media star, as bestselling author, as conspicuously wealthy consumer, Trump reigned — until his spectacular collapse — unchallenged as a unique new breed of entrepreneurial superstar, one who was as confidently victorious on television and the podiums of an endless string of press conferences as he was in the boardrooms and bankers' offices where he waged his epic battles.

For all the media attention that has been devoted to him, though, what do we really know about Donald Trump, apart from what he has carefully contrived to foster the myth of a self-made financial genius, a man for whom extravagance was merely a perquisite of success?

In Trump, The Deals And The Downfall, the journalist most qualified to tell the story finally unravels the myth and reveals the truth behind the rise and fall of the remarkable mogul.

For over thirteen years — from the time Trump was an audacious newcomer on the New York real estate scene — Wayne Barrett has scrupulously followed Trump's career, and has charted a pattern of backroom deals and the underside of Trump's own business practices — behavior nothing like the canny prowess celebrated in Donald's own autobiographies.

The Trump we meet in this exceptional book is a man who, rather than a self-created millionaire, is in fact heir both to a substantial empire built by his equally rapacious father and to the Democratic machine connections that made the empire possible.

Barrett's investigative biography takes us from the days of Donald's lonely youth to his brash entry into the real estate market, and to the still-secret machinations behind the major deals that made his name; from the initial triumph of the Hyatt Hotel to the successful purchase of the largest parcel of real estate in Manhattan, the West Side Yards; from the incomparably opulent Trump Tower to such contrasting showpieces as the Taj Mahal casino and the Plaza Hotel; from the extravagance of the $1,OOO-per-square-foot, unoccupied Trump Palace apartments to the extraordinary, desolate Palm Beach estate Mar-A-Lago.

Barrett's investigation of these deals provides not only a fascinating chronicle of Trump's own suspect business practices, but also a hair-raising account of the workings of power brokers in the heady and heedless money culture of the 1980s.

Here is a detailed portrait of the forces that made a Donald Trump possible: the banks that advanced him staggering loans, at times based on misleading information; Trump family associations with mob-connected figures; and compromising alliances with governors, mayors, and perhaps his most powerful benefactor of all, the rogue lawyer Roy Cohn.

Most compellingly Barrett paints an unprecedentedly intimate portrait of Trump himself, a man driven by bravado, ambition, and an anxious ruthlessness to subdue his rivals and control his allies.

We see him head to head with an opponent as powerful as Pete Rozelle, ingratiating himself with the brooding governor on the Hudson, and fueling the Drexel engine driven by Michael Milken with hundreds of millions in fees — paid, ironically, by gaming companies to fend off Trump takeovers.

We look behind the headlines to explore his complicated emotional and business relationship with Ivana, and the use he planned to make of his mistress Marla Maples as a "southern strategy" in his contemplated presidential campaign.

And through interviews with scores of adversaries and former colleagues we are given a privileged look at Trump the businessman in action — arrogant as often as he is brilliant, reliant on threats as much as on charm, and ultimately a cautionary tale: himself the victim of a career that will see no parallel in our lifetime.

Praise for Trump:

"Trump is a withering portrait of the most self-mythologized and promoted businessman of our era, an exhaustively researched and long-overdue antidote to Trump's own books. It is a penetrating portrait of the age that spawned him and the many who aided and abetted his rise. Trump seems destined to be the definitive account of how Trump got ahead and why he fell. It is a sad story, with important lessons for us all." — James B. Stewart, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of Den of Thieves

"Donald Trump surprises us again. Wayne Barrett's Trump is a fresh, detailed, and vivid account of the tangled connections of money, politics, and power in our times." — Nicholas Pileggi, author of Wiseguy


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http://www.nationinstitute.org/authors/waynebarrett/

Wayne Barrett was a fixture at the Village Voice for almost four decades, doing his first investigative feature in 1973 and writing more than 2000 stories between then and 2011, when he left the paper.

He has also written five books, including two on Rudy Giuliani, a biography of Donald Trump and City for Sale, a chronicle of the Koch scandals of the late 80s.

He has been an adjunct at the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism for years, teaching courses on investigative and political reporting, as well as advising students on investigative projects.

An army of his interns and students are now spread throughout American and international journalism.
 

TracerBullet

New member
By the time the current dictator is out of office choices may be severely limited. The next "president" will inherit a desperate situation. Of course he/she could continue the litany of blaming Bush....

what desperate situation are you talking about?
 

bybee

New member
How can President Barack Obama be BOTH feckless and a dictator? Sounds like you really need to make up your mind. Or perhaps you suffer from bipolar disorder?

I suffer from a good many things.
My mind is open to new data.
So far I don't believe I have characterized him as feckless? To the contrary, he is very effective in achieving his goals for the country.
 

MarcATL

New member
I suffer from a good many things.
My mind is open to new data.
So far I don't believe I have characterized him as feckless? To the contrary, he is very effective in achieving his goals for the country.
Well, not you individually, but your party collectively has been calling our President weak and feckless, while simultaneously accusing him of being a tyrant and/or dictator. These things simply don't go together.
 

musterion

Well-known member
Trump makes some accurate comments re: Perot, Bush and Clinton but won't categorically deny the 3rd party option.

In the course of a brief talk, Trump made a strong case for staying in the Republican party. But he left the door ever so slightly cracked at the end, when I asked if he would definitively rule out a third-party run. "It's something I'm not thinking about right now," Trump said, "because I'm doing well within the Republican ranks, and that gives us the best chance of defeating Hillary Clinton."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-im-not-thinking-third-party-for-now/article/2567803
 

THall

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I believe you should remove that picture. It would appear that you are making fun of someone who cannot help being born with an infirmity.


And here I thought it was his latest
selfie home video.....
 
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THall

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Well, not you individually, but your party collectively has been calling our President weak and feckless, while simultaneously accusing him of being a tyrant and/or dictator. These things simply don't go together.

You openly admit your accusation are nothing more
than imagined conflations. You are the joke.
 

bybee

New member
Given that liberals are all about the feelings of others & not showing offense this picture could be interpreted as being mean spirited to somebody, no? :chuckle:

Yes indeed! It is mean spirited and showing disdain for someone less fortunate through no fault of his own.
 

The Barbarian

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That may be the best warning yet to convince people

to NOT vote for Hillary Clinton......

I wasn't aware that she had more than four bankruptcies. Trump has run four companies into the ground and is still rich. But the people who trusted him enough to invest in him aren't.

And you want to trust him with our money?
 

bybee

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I wasn't aware that she had more than four bankruptcies. Trump has run four companies into the ground and is still rich. But the people who trusted him enough to invest in him aren't.

And you want to trust him with our money?

I don't trust any politician!
 

rocketman

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I wasn't aware that she had more than four bankruptcies. Trump has run four companies into the ground and is still rich. But the people who trusted him enough to invest in him aren't.

And you want to trust him with our money?

What an absolutely absurd thing to say given there are so many notable people including presidents that went broke, filed bankruptcy then came back from it. It shows more about the tenacity of the man that they were broke, but not broken, than it shows weakness or untrustworthiness with money, failure is usually a big part of success. Try names like Henry Ford, Abraham Lincoln, Walt Disney, P.T. Barnum, Ulysses S. Grant, Francis Ford Coppola, William McKinley, just to name a few. Read more here...

http://www.incomediary.com/went-bankrupt-now-worth-millions
 
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