SaulToPaul 2
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I disagree.
I see this generation, and I see the regeneration.
It's possible I'm correct.
Does Luke 19:44 disprove Preterism?
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I disagree.
I see this generation, and I see the regeneration.
It's possible I'm correct.
I have already showed many men who taught Preterism before Alcasar.
To date, not one person has ever showed anyone who taught what Darby invented before Darby.
SaulToPaul 2
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Any relation to Luis Salazar that used to be with the Padres?
No, you're dead wrong.
Not one verse in the NT with the phrase "this generation" refers to anyone other than the generation of Jesus' contemporaries.
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
They were the members of this generation he was talking to.
It's possible I'm right.
whitestone
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Yep, that guy Zechariah sure must have been confused when he said that their was one woman that was put into the basket and weighed Zechariah 5:9 KJV because he sure thought that the one woman would be weighed and that her candlestick would be put out Revelation 18:23 KJV ,,,
But then it has that "qualifier" in it to clarify it "two women came out" that is in ad70 one woman went in the basket and was weighed and then there was no more light in her(candle put out),then the voice of the bridegroom(Christ)nor the bride(church) was heard in her no more.
And then that guy Jesus he sure must have been a Darby follower to think that there were "Two",(qualifier again) but one of the "two" are clearly not of the "qualifier Jesus gives" when he clearly states one of them are of this house http://biblehub.com/greek/833.htm so one of them are and the other is not.
Now he states that he will make them both "one flock,one Shepard" but don't say when. Then there it is again in Revelation "two witnesses" Two, Two, Two, everywhere we look there are always "two witnesses" the witness of two is considered as true but the witness of one is not. It baffles me as to how some feel the necessity to make the point that their is only one when it is consistent throughout that there is supposed to be "two witnesses",,,
Well until the time comes for them to only be one when theres no need for the light of those candles Revelation 22:5 KJV ,,, lol them Darby followers with their "two witness mess" their just gonna have to get over all the "two stuff",,,,
Until you take off the MAD sunglasses, you will never be right.
SaulToPaul 2
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Maybe, maybe not.
(Luke 11:32 KJV) The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: ...
According to your theory, the men of Nineve are part of "this generation".
If so, how then does the men of Nineve (who you claim are already part of "this generation"), rise together with "this generation" and condemn "this generation (who you claim they are part of)?
SaulToPaul 2
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In reading the entire chapter, I see it differently than you.
Was the disciple of verse 1 evil?
First off, Zech 5 has nothing to do with Revelation 18.
Secondly, I hate to tell you this, but there were 3 women in Zech 5 (one in the basket, and two that carried the basket away)
Of course not.
Those Jews who accepted Jesus were not part of the evil generation of Jews that rejected and killed Him.
Jesus knew there were some good Jews amongst the evil generation. That's why He told them that when they saw Jerusalem surrounded, to head to the hills.
SaulToPaul 2
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11 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
whitestone
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lol, yep them "two trees" Zechariah 4:11-14 KJV they don't match up nowhere not even Revelation. It is fun to try to take two witnesses and say it's just one,,well unless at some point you find you might need them to be two instead of one,,,but to each their own I see two witnesses the one to the circumcision,the other to the Gentile,,,but thats enough for now.
SaulToPaul 2
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A bunch of people.
So explain why the Roman army held a Christian banner.
And explain why Israel is antiChristian to this very day.
Back to Dispensationalism 101 for you.
Dispensationalism claims the church will have been raptured away before the two witnesses in Revelation make their appearance.
Made up.
The Lord Jesus Christ is sitting at the right hand of God the Father, on God the Father's throne now-2 separate thrones/locations.
Revelation 3:21 KJVTo him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
The Lord Jesus Christ's throne-on earth-future:
Matthew 19:28 KJV And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Preterist scammer Craigie:Figurative...Allegory...After the flesh....Darby....You really think....?
You wicked scammer, perverter.