ECT Do those who believe MAD have no problem disregarding what Jesus actually taught ?

Danoh

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So what? I can't keep track, but anything I've torn down built on 2P2P was rebuilt by you and your pals. D'ism was not the system of interp that caused the Reformation to happen. It was developed much later, partly by people who were tired of the Protestant-Catholic conflict.

Man o man has your books based reasoning "about" a thing "into" it rendered you incompetent to being able to see a thing unless it is pointed out to you in a book "about."

How you get through a day baffles the mind :chuckle:

It was the RCC's willful failure to distinguish between Law and Grace (two DIFFERENT economies, stewardships, administrations, or dispensations) that not only had Martin Luther so troubled about both his present and his eternal fate but that drove him, finally, to the Scripture and the Apostle Paul's Epistle to the Romans, where he found his long sought for peace with God at last.

It was and continues to be the RCC's continued failure to distinguish between those two "dispensations" that even now still views Luther's "recovery" of this distinction as some notion conjured up by Luther and the other "Reformers."

You are incredibly inept at your chosen task - the dispensational distinction between law and grace - between the Law's Performance Based Acceptance (Moses) and Grace's Christ Based Acceptance (Paul) had existed for some fifteen hundred years BEFORE Luther.

It was the same basic distinction between things that differ and are therefore not the same; that the Apostle Paul himself had had to combat in his own day, even as the Lord was having him "destroy the things" of the one ("the law for righteousness") at the same time that He was having him "build" the things of the other ("the righteousness of God WITHOUT the law").

You ought to ban yourself from posting - your posts are that bereft of what is known as "a clue" :chuckle:

You might as well assert in your every fool post that until Newton came along to decode into "here it is in written form" those three basic laws he remains highly admired for to this very day - you might as well assert, you incompetent, that until he came along to decode those three laws into written form, said three laws did not exist all those thousands upon thousands of years before him.

:doh:
 

Lighthouse

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There is no 2P2P in the Bible, which we know from reading Eph 2-3. That in itself is enough to cancel all subsriptions to MAD.
Who said there was?

What does Galatians 2:7-9 mean?

You know claiming that something that applies to one group actually applies to more than one group doesn't make it so. And logic dictates that if we're correct then Ephesians only applies to Paul's audience and thereby your argument does not hold.

IP believes 2P2P
:chuckle:
 

Interplanner

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Who said there was?

What does Galatians 2:7-9 mean?

You know claiming that something that applies to one group actually applies to more than one group doesn't make it so. And logic dictates that if we're correct then Ephesians only applies to Paul's audience and thereby your argument does not hold.


:chuckle:


2P2P is a bigger assault on the coherence of the Bible than you think.

Gal 2's grammar is secured by the verb preaching. ONe thing was preached. The prepostions used for the two groups mean each recieved the same message. There is no grammatical way to conclude from these lines that there were 2 gospels, and the fellow just announced anathema on 2 gospels. any questions?

All the material in Ephesians is in the rest of the NT.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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2P2P is a bigger assault on the coherence of the Bible than you think.

Gal 2's grammar is secured by the verb preaching. ONe thing was preached. The prepostions used for the two groups mean each recieved the same message. There is no grammatical way to conclude from these lines that there were 2 gospels, and the fellow just announced anathema on 2 gospels. any questions?

All the material in Ephesians is in the rest of the NT.

:chuckle:


From the scholar who has not studied Abraham in circumcision versus Abraham in uncircumcision?

Figures.
 

Interplanner

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Do you fellers realize you never say what you believe? You only say that "A" is wrong and you are right. It's your little inconstestible victory routine.
 

Interplanner

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You're better than most of them RD, but just look at 2126. exactly.

Subscribing to 2P2P is like having a map that only reaches a mile from your house in each direction.
 

Right Divider

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You're better than most of them RD, but just look at 2126. exactly.
Instead of ALWAYS making us GUESS at what you're talking about, why don't you just TELL US?

What is wrong with that post? It is TOTALLY true.

I actually heard a well known "Bible teacher" on the radio recently say something about "the good new of the gospel". How stupid can these "experts" be?

And they talk just like you.

Subscribing to 2P2P is like having a map that only reaches a mile from your house in each direction.
It's quite EASY to see that the Bible describes TWO "plans" (will be joined in the future). God chose Israel for His plans on the earth. God later revealed a plan for the heavenly places in His gospel of the grace of God. That fact that your dusty books lead you be believer otherwise is YOUR problem.
 

john w

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Do you fellers realize you never say what you believe? You only say that "A" is wrong and you are right. It's your little inconstestible victory routine.

inconstestable-scholars


vs.

inconstestible-you


Our hero cannot spell, employs "The Modern English" of "fellers," and he still contends he needs to sit us down, and teach us "greek grammar?"


"Nyet"-Russian, for "No.,"
 

steko

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Do you fellers realize you never say what you believe? You only say that "A" is wrong and you are right. It's your little inconstestible victory routine.

I thought you claimed to know what we believe.

If you don't know what we believe, then why so many threads contesting what we believe.

Don't ya' reckon it be better to first learn what we believe and then proceed to challenge it if you find that you disagree?
 

Interplanner

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There is a large group here on TOL that do not know what gospel means.

Some here have used this in a sentence: the "good news" gospel

Yikes.



You are celebrating your victory but not discussing the question.

The Gospel is that God was in Christ clearing up the debt of man's sin with His righteousness. This event, and the work of broadcasting it, is the new covenant. Unfortunately some people do not receive this.
 

Interplanner

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2P2P is well known. The first thing it does is depart entirely from the NT on how to read the OT. That's why everything you read in 2P2P from the OT is as though the NT never happened. Like Judaism.

I am more, not less, familiar with you saying; you just are not shocked at what you do.
 

Interplanner

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I thought you claimed to know what we believe.

If you don't know what we believe, then why so many threads contesting what we believe.

Don't ya' reckon it be better to first learn what we believe and then proceed to challenge it if you find that you disagree?



I do know what you believe, and you have made it pretty clear. There is a lot to be destroyed about it. It clearly does not sound or feel or read like the apostles about the OT.
 

Interplanner

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Instead of ALWAYS making us GUESS at what you're talking about, why don't you just TELL US?

What is wrong with that post? It is TOTALLY true.

I actually heard a well known "Bible teacher" on the radio recently say something about "the good new of the gospel". How stupid can these "experts" be?

And they talk just like you.


It's quite EASY to see that the Bible describes TWO "plans" (will be joined in the future). God chose Israel for His plans on the earth. God later revealed a plan for the heavenly places in His gospel of the grace of God. That fact that your dusty books lead you be believer otherwise is YOUR problem.



There is nothing ever stated that way in the NT. I don't know when you will realize it, but you could try doing Ephesians 1-4 10x and Hebrews 10x. That would help. Gal 3-4, too.
 
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