ECT Dear wolves/wolf-ette's, children of the devil, Cain, Jr.'s,: What sins?

God's Truth

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In an attempt to understand the biblical order of salvation, I sometimes get too rigid in how it is accomplished by God.

We receive many blessings in salvation, and one of them is the gift of repentance from the Holy Spirit.

We do not receive the Holy Spirit before we are saved and we do not get saved until after we repent.
 

Nang

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In an attempt to understand the biblical order of salvation, I sometimes get too rigid in how it is accomplished by God.

We receive many blessings in salvation, and one of them is the gift of repentance from the Holy Spirit.

Yes.

Both repentance and faith to believe, are the gifts of God, received when a soul is born again by the Holy Spirit.
 

God's Truth

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GT, how is it possible for a sinner to have anything to do with the things of God unless born again first?

John 3:3

That scripture about being born again to see the kingdom of heaven.

One is born again by believing and repenting of their sins.

Born again is when one repents and has their sins washed away...they are born again...they have a new life without sins.
 

Nang

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That scripture about being born again to see the kingdom of heaven.

One is born again by believing and repenting of their sins.

You got it backwards . . .

Elect souls only believe and repent of their sins when God mercifully resurrects them to new life by the power of His Holy Spirit.

Souls left dead in their sins, never believe and never repent.
 

God's Truth

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Sinful men cannot and will not ever repent.

They must first be changed in heart, to love and believe God. (John 3:3-8)

They must repent to get a new heart.

Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?
 

glorydaz

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Sinful men cannot and will not ever repent.

They must first be changed in heart, to love and believe God. (John 3:3-8)

My goodness. You'd do well to actually read the verses you quote.

The verse say "see the KINGDOM of God" and you change it to "love and believe God."

Notice any difference there?
 

john w

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Whenever humans are told to repent, it is always about our sins.

No, it's not, you stupid moron; it is about changing your mind, since the LORD God repented. You're just too stupid, and demonic, to see it.

You argue, on record, that the LORD sins, moron, as you, on record, assert that "repent" always means "stop sinning." The LORD God repented; thus, idiot, you assert that the LORD God stopped sinning.

Sober up, you idiot.
 
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