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MichaelCadry

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Dear Hedshaker,

How're you doing Buddy??!! It's been a bit. How was your weekend? Looks like you sure have enough you can do if you want to. I was at my Nephew's home last week and we jammed and sang until my fingers hurt just way too bad. I didn't have any callouses to help me. It's been a while. They just loved my 12-string. I'll bet that's what they'll buy next. The have a lot of different guitars. My guitar has an external pickup. So it makes it electric. The last pickup I had must have lasted about 40 years. Now I've got a new one and it's really nice. I had to tune up my strings too high because their guitars were tuned to E, and mine wasn't. I guess I can always use a capo. Didn't think of that when I was there. They must have had a spare one. I, of course, forgot to take mine. I don't play much anymore, 'cause I'm busy keeping house, making dinner, and cooking, and eating. Today we had London Broil with Yorkshire Pudding. It was just totally delicious. Instead of using a Flank Steak, I used a 1 and 1/2 inch New York Steak. So tender!! It was by accident. I thought it was a flank steak, but someone gave it to me and I didn't read it carefully. Just threw it in the freezer and forgot about it.

I'm going to start playing and singing again more. I miss it and it's so good for my soul and spirit. Sure could use it. I'm very happy, but I don't like to see this world in such disarray. Soon Jesus will come and fix it all. I have faith!

So have you been messing around in the studio at all. I'd like you to give me something with your vocals, like before. You sing real well. We have a camera but never get down to using it with me singing, etc. Maybe soon. Got so much going on. Right now, my transmission needs a tad bit of work (a sensor) so got to go to the junk yard and pick one up for cheap or free. It keeps my 'Service Engine Soon' light on. Got to fix it soon in case I run out of time. This week sometime.

What do you do with your spare time?? What kind of car do you have?? I have a 2001 Ford Escort ZX2 with a 2.0L engine with dual overhead cam, 2-door and it's loaded. I love it. It's got 122,000 miles on it, but I should get another 100,000 out of it. If someone hits me, I'll get a Used Ford Fusion. I like them better than the new Fusion, 'cause they're cheaper and fancy. Will see. A new one I could pull off, but that would put me on a tighter budget, so forget it.

What did you have for dinner?? We had Fried Chicken from the Grocery Store yesterday. It was marked down, so I snapped that up and saved two dollars!! Yippee!!

Well, I don't want to write you a novelette.

Peace and Sincerity!!

Michael
 

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Dear Hedshaker,

How're you doing Buddy??!! It's been a bit. How was your weekend? Looks like you sure have enough you can do if you want to. I was at my Nephew's home last week and we jammed and sang until my fingers hurt just way too bad. I didn't have any callouses to help me. It's been a while. They just loved my 12-string. I'll bet that's what they'll buy next. The have a lot of different guitars. My guitar has an external pickup. So it makes it electric. The last pickup I had must have lasted about 40 years. Now I've got a new one and it's really nice. I had to tune up my strings too high because their guitars were tuned to E, and mine wasn't. I guess I can always use a capo. Didn't think of that when I was there. They must have had a spare one. I, of course, forgot to take mine. I don't play much anymore, 'cause I'm busy keeping house, making dinner, and cooking, and eating. Today we had London Broil with Yorkshire Pudding. It was just totally delicious. Instead of using a Flank Steak, I used a 1 and 1/2 inch New York Steak. So tender!! It was by accident. I thought it was a flank steak, but someone gave it to me and I didn't read it carefully. Just threw it in the freezer and forgot about it.

I'm good Michael. I have a Fender Stratocaster electric, an Echo Ranger acoustic, both of which I've had for many years, and a Marlin bass, though I work mostly with synths and samples these days. I had a nice 12 string years ago but a friend kept badgering me to sell to him, which I finally did, against my better judgement. Money is fleeting but treasured possessions can last a life time. Still, what are friends for :)

I'm going to start playing and singing again more. I miss it and it's so good for my soul and spirit. Sure could use it. I'm very happy, but I don't like to see this world in such disarray. Soon Jesus will come and fix it all. I have faith!

Sure, but what will it do to your faith when this time passes and nothing happens? When you first came to this forum this was going to happen within a few months to 2 years. Now it's 2 to 5 years.... is that from now or from June 2013? As I have said, you are not the first or only one to make these predictions, but just one of a long line that precede and parallel you. Sure it's harmless enough but I fear you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Sorry.

So have you been messing around in the studio at all. I'd like you to give me something with your vocals, like before. You sing real well. We have a camera but never get down to using it with me singing, etc. Maybe soon. Got so much going on. Right now, my transmission needs a tad bit of work (a sensor) so got to go to the junk yard and pick one up for cheap or free. It keeps my 'Service Engine Soon' light on. Got to fix it soon in case I run out of time. This week sometime.

I'm not a terribly good singer I'm afraid. I was a fairly good guitarist in my time but rarely play any more. I produce dance music and ambient trippy stuff now.

What do you do with your spare time?? What kind of car do you have?? I have a 2001 Ford Escort ZX2 with a 2.0L engine with dual overhead cam, 2-door and it's loaded. I love it. It's got 122,000 miles on it, but I should get another 100,000 out of it. If someone hits me, I'll get a Used Ford Fusion. I like them better than the new Fusion, 'cause they're cheaper and fancy. Will see. A new one I could pull off, but that would put me on a tighter budget, so forget it.

Spare time? All my time is spare but I fill it with music making, keeping fit, helping with family. I also like films and TV series.... Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and so on.

I don't drive a car any more, nor do I miss it. I ride a bike, walk and use the bus service.

What did you have for dinner?? We had Fried Chicken from the Grocery Store yesterday. It was marked down, so I snapped that up and saved two dollars!! Yippee!!

Well, I don't want to write you a novelette.

Peace and Sincerity!!

Michael

Last night I made a spaghetti bolognese and it wasn't half bad, even if I say so myself. Don't know about to night, haven't made my mind up yet :)

All the best.
 

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MichaelCadry said:
Why would God have to call THEIR name Adam, unless there was more than one Adam made. You mean, inGen. 5:2, it means just Adam and Eve as 'them' being called Adam?
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Correct, the word 'adam' in Genesis 5:2 refers to humans. Notice how 'adam' refers to male and female in all translations. *


Gods Word Translation
He created them male and female. He blessed them and called them humans when he created them.

Jubilee Bible 2000
male and female created he them and blessed them and called their name Man, in the day when they were created.

King James 2000 Bible
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

American King James Version
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

American Standard Version
male and female created he them, and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Douay-Rheims Bible
He created them male and female; and blessed them: and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.*

Darby Bible Translation
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

English Revised Version
male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Webster's Bible Translation
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

World English Bible
He created them male and female, and blessed them, and called their name "Adam," in the day when they were created.

Young's Literal Translation
a male and a female He hath prepared them, and He blesseth them, and calleth their name Man, in the day of their being prepared.
 

MichaelCadry

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You would love to agree?

Then lets stay on topic discussing Adam in Genesis 5:2.

Do you agree that God created male and female and called them Adam? (Humans / mankind)


Dear 6days,

So far, no, I don't believe you. God created Adam and the Lord God 'formed' Adam, also. Little explains the fact that God created the beasts and cattle BEFORE He created Adam. But in the 2nd Chapter of Genesis, it says that the 'Lord God' saw that the man was lonely, so He formed the animals and cattle AFTER man, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them.

Convince me, 6days!!

Michael
 

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Convince me, 6days!!

No Michael...If God's Word can't convince you then I certainly can't.


I do believe you know you are wrong and that is why you keep trying to change the topic. We were talking about Genesis 5:2 because you said it was evidence there was previous Adams. * I pointed out that you dishonestly quoted just half a sentence from the verse. The verse tells us God created male and female calling us human / adam / mankind.*

From there ...3 times you have tried to jump to talking about fowl...then dinosaurs.....and now beasts and cattle.*
 

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Hi Michael, real life is keeping me busy at the moment. Not sure how Yorkshire pudding fits in a London Broil, but sounds good enough to eat anyway.
I cook it in a separate pan, Al. It's delicious. Taste's like beef-flavored bread pudding.

Seems to me that good air conditioning is what you need in your cars. :)

You're right. Good thing the cars are heading to Michigan. A/C isn't needed as badly as AZ. I'm just wondering how many old cars you can get with A/C. Plus, they have the old type of refrigerant in their compressors. Hmmmm! It's going to take some work.

Thanks Michael, tootle pip old chap, what. :sherlock:

Well, thank you too Al. I'm glad you keep so busy. It's good for you!

Cheerio and Bloody Mary!!

Michael

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MichaelCadry

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You would love to agree?

Then lets stay on topic discussing Adam in Genesis 5:2.

Do you agree that God created male and female and called them Adam? (Humans / mankind)


Dear 6days,

We are NOT ALL Adams! There are Eve's too. Don't you think God knows the difference. I believe it's a mystery still just yet. It is a toughie. God will set things straight later. It's taxing to keep rehashing it over and over again, but I can.

More Love To You Than You Could Imagine From God And From Me,

Michael

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MichaelCadry

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No Michael...If God's Word can't convince you then I certainly can't.

I do believe you know you are wrong and that is why you keep trying to change the topic. We were talking about Genesis 5:2 because you said it was evidence there was previous Adams. * I pointed out that you dishonestly quoted just half a sentence from the verse. The verse tells us God created male and female calling us human / adam / mankind.*

Dear 6days,

I'm not trying to be difficult or cause any problems. You just don't want to believe in anything except what you are used to. Perhaps He has called Eve 'Adam'. That doesn't explain why God created the creatures and cattle BEFORE man in Gen. chapter 1, and yet in Gen. chapter 2, He forms them AFTER He forms man, seeing that the man is lonely, so He makes an help meet for Adam, and brings them to the man to see what he would call them.

Why does it say in Gen. chapter 1 that God Created fowl from the waters, and yet in Gen. chapter 2, it says the Lord God Formed the fowl from the ground?? These are things that just don't add up. And another thing that doesn't add up is that we find man's bones that are older than 6,000 years old. Why is the earth billions of years old and the Universe also even more billions of years old?? And man only 6,000 years old?

From there ...3 times you have tried to jump to talking about fowl...then dinosaurs.....and now beasts and cattle.*

Yep, you are right. What about all of these factors that don't seem to fit into place with the way you're thinking or saying?? Things just don't make sense to me thinking about it your way, but if I am wrong, I will ask for forgiveness. I'm not trying to cause trouble or dissension at all. 6days, I care about you too much for this to be happening. Let's just agree to disagree and forget about this part we don't believe in. I'll ponder it some more.

God Bless You Beyond Measure, As The Protons To The Atoms!!

Michael
 

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No Michael...If God's Word can't convince you then I certainly can't.

Dear 6days,

God's Word can definitely convince me.

I do believe you know you are wrong and that is why you keep trying to change the topic. We were talking about Genesis 5:2 because you said it was evidence there was previous Adams. * I pointed out that you dishonestly quoted just half a sentence from the verse. The verse tells us God created male and female calling us human / adam / mankind.*

From there ...3 times you have tried to jump to talking about fowl...then dinosaurs.....and now beasts and cattle.*

I do not believe that I know I'm wrong, like you concur. I'm not trying to change the subject, but instead add the other factors to help show my case. One way that I could be swayed is if when God says He created "Them", like it does say in Gen. chapter 1:27, before the name Adam or Eve was ever mentioned. So now I've answered my own self.

So now you have your way, 6days. Thanks to ME! It is answered in Post 1:26, to be honest, that God first uses the plural "THEM." And if God created Man in His Likeness and God created He Them in His Likeness, there were a bunch of Adams running around at the same time. Tons of them. Does that mean all of their wives were called Eve?? It's all speculation sometimes. Thanks for your help, 6days. I still do believe that the LORD GOD FORMED man in one instance in Gen. chapter 2, and made the animals after man that time, and made the fowl that time from the ground instead of the waters, because the Lord God told me that for a fact. But when He created all of the Adams and Eves, they did not all live in the garden of Eden and realize they were naked, and listened to the snake instead of God. That is the difference between OUR Adam and all of the other Adams that God created when He said have dominion over all of the earth. And it was after T-Rex, etc. when God created man and woman, for they could not have dominion over dangerous hostile animals of that type. But I can see finally what you are also saying too.

Really 6days, THANKS!! I've been struggling with that one for a long time. I keep on learning more and more. It could still play a part in it all, but that's up to God. Can we agree now? For now, we concur??

God Bless You Immensely With Many Treasures From His Stash,

Michael

P.S. Now are we STILL FRIENDS???!!!
 
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MichaelCadry

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DEAR SIX DAYS! See Post 4302!! Page 287. Halfway down. I agree!

Praise The Lord!!

Michael
 
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Michael & Hedshaker!

Michael & Hedshaker!

I'm good Michael. I have a Fender Stratocaster electric, an Echo Ranger acoustic, both of which I've had for many years, and a Marlin bass, though I work mostly with synths and samples these days. I had a nice 12 string years ago but a friend kept badgering me to sell to him, which I finally did, against my better judgement. Money is fleeting but treasured possessions can last a life time. Still, what are friends for :)

Hi Buddy!! You've got some NICE equipment. Takes lots of money. At least someone you know got your 12-string. I pawned mine for way less than it was worth and I couldn't afford to get it back. It was a hard time for me, after my first job that I quit without giving a notice. Money ran out, and I hadn't quit smoking by then. I didn't miss the guitar much for the most part, but I did end up regretting that I'd done it. Before I pawned it and after all 3 angels had visited me, I was singing in the basement where my room was, and I was playing "Peace Train" by Cat Stevens. Well, all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit visited me and rush into my body and I started to sing Peace Train and I realized what all the words meant to Cat Steven's songs, and I sang it with feeling and I sounded just like Cat Stevens when I began singing again. I heard my Mom upstairs say "Al (my Dad), do you hear how he's singing?? Do you hear what he's singing about??" I could hear her through the air ducts. Anyway, some of the words were, "Get your bags together; Go, bring your good friends too. 'Cause it's getting nearer (Armageddon), it soon will be with you. Now come and join the Living. It's not so far from You. And it's getting NEARER; Soon it will All be True. Oh Peace Train, Holy Roller, Everyone jump on the Peace Train...Oh Peace Train, sounding louder (coming closer), Glide on the Peace Train, etc."

After the Holy Spirit had left, it happened in about one minute of an experience. I all of a sudden understood the hidden meanings of all of Cat Stevens songs. I went into a vision and saw Cat lying in a hospital bed and he was sick and dying from tuberculosis. And the Lord visited him and saved his life, and caused him to sing new songs, instead of the unsuccessful ones he had been singing. Consider "The First Cut Is The Deepest" is just about his only 'hit' up til then, not counting his latest albums out. Anyway, it was quite an experience. I could quote more song lyrics by him, but it's okay I think. If you want me to, let me know.

Sure, but what will it do to your faith when this time passes and nothing happens? When you first came to this forum this was going to happen within a few months to 2 years. Now it's 2 to 5 years.... is that from now or from June 2013? As I have said, you are not the first or only one to make these predictions, but just one of a long line that precede and parallel you. Sure it's harmless enough but I fear you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Sorry.

Well, Hedshaker, I thought I'd said that couple months to 2 years only a few mos. ago. But yes, a few mos. to 2 years is fine. But I give myself up to 5 just so others won't know either way. He (Jesus) shall come as a thief in the night. None of us will expect Him. That's why I'm not known widely, but instead am reclusive and only 1,000 or so have heard my message. You might know that I've reached ALOT of people. Both Presidents of the U.S. and Israel have copies of my book and Proof Pages. I've done two You Tube videos, tons of Twitter, 4 Facebook sites, my Pastors at church each have a copy of my book. I could go on and on. I get questions from lots of people in the rest of the world, not just the U.S.A. I am inundated, so that I can't answer everyone, and just have to leave go what I can't get to. I make sure they know how to get a Free copy of my book and that's all I can do sometimes. I've had book-signings, newspaper interviews, had ABC-TV in my living room filming me about my experiences. Too controversial for the 5 o'clock news. If everyone knew Jesus was coming so soon, they'd probably all quit their jobs, quit caring about certain things, and just sit and wait for Him to return. That's not how it's going to be. There is little yet though, to be done before His coming. But this world would fall apart if some people believed me, especially those who could get my testimony/story out to the general public and get my story more public to others. People would probably withdraw all of their money out of the bank, quit buying a new house, quit going to college or school, quit trying to be a doctor, lawyer, etc. You can't imagine the implications. There's a reason for everything.

But it's all in my book, so people will know after I'm gone and when the time has come for them to actually know.

I'm not a terribly good singer I'm afraid. I was a fairly good guitarist in my time but rarely play any more. I produce dance music and ambient trippy stuff now.
Spare time? All my time is spare but I fill it with music making, keeping fit, helping with family. I also like films and TV series.... Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and so on.

Ah, you sing okay!! At least you're not off-pitch!! I'm not the greatest guitarist. I only really play rhythm/chords. No picking strings. You could do a lot with a few guitar riffs on the equipment you have producing other aesthetics to it. You know what I mean?? And throw in a little keyboard to make your production a masterpiece. I like TV. I hardly ever play my guitar, but that's going to change. I used to sing feelings out of my heart with my music, and I could use that again right now. I jammed with my nephew and his girlfriend. They both sing pretty good! We're going to get together over here and jam down on my amp. Mine is a stage amp. You can't barely even turn it up to 1 without it being too loud for the neighbors. I'm in a house too. If we all plugged into it and with a few mics, we could kick some ***-singing. They also want to go in the in-ground pool out in back. It's surrounded by a tall cement fence around the whole back yard, so you can skinny dip or sunbathe in the nude. All of this, and I'd leave the second Jesus called.

I don't drive a car any more, nor do I miss it. I ride a bike, walk and use the bus service.

Last night I made a spaghetti bolognese and it wasn't half bad, even if I say so myself. Don't know about to night, haven't made my mind up yet :)

All the best.

I still drive a car, but right now it needs a 'neutral safety switch' on the transmission. Easy to fix. They was $112 for it, so we're going to the Junk Yard and get it free, or for $5 or so.

Hedshaker, your spaghetti bolognese sounds wonderful. We're just going to have some veal burgers 2morrow. Otherwise, canned Chow Mien. If the veal is still good (it was in the freezer) then we'll have that on a bun with fixings. If it's freezer burned, we'll have Chinese or frozen pizza.

Hey, love you and don't be a stranger. I'll write again soon if you don't write me first! Believe me, the last thing I am is lonely. My life is filled. But I love talking with you and my other buddies here. I don't know the last time I was bored. I'm sure it was before I turned 18. I'm 58 now. 40 years!! eeeeek!!

Warmest Regards And Hugs!!

Michael
 

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Dear Hedshaker,

Any chance you will reply to my post above?

Michael

Patience dear boy. But you do realise we're way off topic now? Oh well, who cares :)


Hi Buddy!! You've got some NICE equipment. Takes lots of money. At least someone you know got your 12-string. I pawned mine for way less than it was worth and I couldn't afford to get it back. It was a hard time for me, after my first job that I quit without giving a notice. Money ran out, and I hadn't quit smoking by then. I didn't miss the guitar much for the most part, but I did end up regretting that I'd done it. Before I pawned it and after all 3 angels had visited me, I was singing in the basement where my room was, and I was playing "Peace Train" by Cat Stevens. Well, all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit visited me and rush into my body and I started to sing Peace Train and I realized what all the words meant to Cat Steven's songs, and I sang it with feeling and I sounded just like Cat Stevens when I began singing again. I heard my Mom upstairs say "Al (my Dad), do you hear how he's singing?? Do you hear what he's singing about??" I could hear her through the air ducts. Anyway, some of the words were, "Get your bags together; Go, bring your good friends too. 'Cause it's getting nearer (Armageddon), it soon will be with you. Now come and join the Living. It's not so far from You. And it's getting NEARER; Soon it will All be True. Oh Peace Train, Holy Roller, Everyone jump on the Peace Train...Oh Peace Train, sounding louder (coming closer), Glide on the Peace Train, etc."

I'm pretty disgusted with Cat Stevens. Great talent, lovely voice, excellent song writer, all thrown away for a bunch of unsubstantiated voodoo. Such a shame. Had he em-brassed different fairytale like Christianity eg. he would at least have been able to peruse his music career. I believe Hank Marvin is a jehovah's witnesses but that didn't stop him from playing the guitar. Not that I think Hank Marvin is in the same league as Cat Stevens talent wise.

I'm sorry to report Michael but there's no evidence at all for the existence of angels, pixies, fairies, gods and leprechauns etc. Not that I doubt you sincerity. I'm sure you really believe what you say, but the human mind is a deeply flawed mine field (or should I say mind field), especially when infected with profound beliefs usually based on long tern indoctrination. When you really, really want something to be true it is quite capable of providing what you want, completely from within that lump of meat that exists in your skull. Take a few minutes and type the words "confirmation bias" into Google. It's a fascinating subject, well worth a few minutes reading. But no, I have no idea what triggered your experience was but I remain 9.999999 convinced that it wasn't a real angel or a god of any description.

Watch the following video. I don't agree with everything he says be I like his style.

Darryl Sloan


After the Holy Spirit had left, it happened in about one minute of an experience. I all of a sudden understood the hidden meanings of all of Cat Stevens songs. I went into a vision and saw Cat lying in a hospital bed and he was sick and dying from tuberculosis. And the Lord visited him and saved his life, and caused him to sing new songs, instead of the unsuccessful ones he had been singing. Consider "The First Cut Is The Deepest" is just about his only 'hit' up til then, not counting his latest albums out. Anyway, it was quite an experience. I could quote more song lyrics by him, but it's okay I think. If you want me to, let me know.

Here's another two little words for your search engine Michael. Type into Google the words, "Peak Experience". Most people have them at some point in their lives and I suppose it's only natural that they should link them to whatever belief system they have adopted.... confirmation bias.... Buddhists and perusers of Transcendental meditation bang on about them, as do people who pray a lot, which is a kind of mediation after all. Maybe they have a point, maybe not. Thing is though Michael, these are all well documented natural phenomena that require no supernatural causation. Otherwise why are none believers subject to the same experiences?

Regarding confirmation bias though we have a good method for over coming it for the most part. It's called science . Double blind testing, peer review and the like. But I won't labour the point here in case the likes of Sel and other thought police descend to bury me in pages and pages of philosophical twaddle, of which I have neither the time or the interest.

Well, Hedshaker, I thought I'd said that couple months to 2 years only a few mos. ago. But yes, a few mos. to 2 years is fine. But I give myself up to 5 just so others won't know either way. He (Jesus) shall come as a thief in the night. None of us will expect Him. That's why I'm not known widely, but instead am reclusive and only 1,000 or so have heard my message. You might know that I've reached ALOT of people. Both Presidents of the U.S. and Israel have copies of my book and Proof Pages. I've done two You Tube videos, tons of Twitter, 4 Facebook sites, my Pastors at church each have a copy of my book. I could go on and on. I get questions from lots of people in the rest of the world, not just the U.S.A. I am inundated, so that I can't answer everyone, and just have to leave go what I can't get to. I make sure they know how to get a Free copy of my book and that's all I can do sometimes. I've had book-signings, newspaper interviews, had ABC-TV in my living room filming me about my experiences. Too controversial for the 5 o'clock news. If everyone knew Jesus was coming so soon, they'd probably all quit their jobs, quit caring about certain things, and just sit and wait for Him to return. That's not how it's going to be. There is little yet though, to be done before His coming. But this world would fall apart if some people believed me, especially those who could get my testimony/story out to the general public and get my story more public to others. People would probably withdraw all of their money out of the bank, quit buying a new house, quit going to college or school, quit trying to be a doctor, lawyer, etc. You can't imagine the implications. There's a reason for everything.

But it's all in my book, so people will know after I'm gone and when the time has come for them to actually know.

As much as I don't really like bursting your bubble Michael it has to be said that an ounce of real world, testable evidence will always greatly out weigh a 1000 volumes of words and empty predictions for what may be to come, especially regarding extraordinary, un-falsifiable claims. Either you have it right and everything greater minds than you and I have learned in the last few hundred years, or you, like all the others are simply mistaken or have become deluded from being under the spell of deeply held, profound beliefs (please don't take that wrong I'm just making a point. It does happen and not just to theists).

So I offer you further input for your search engine. Please type into Google: occam's razor. Don't feel too bad about what I write here. It's not just you that gets my scepticism, but also psychics. dowsers, big foot searchers, alien chasers, ghost hunters etc etc etc.

Ah, you sing okay!! At least you're not off-pitch!! I'm not the greatest guitarist. I only really play rhythm/chords. No picking strings. You could do a lot with a few guitar riffs on the equipment you have producing other aesthetics to it. You know what I mean?? And throw in a little keyboard to make your production a masterpiece. I like TV. I hardly ever play my guitar, but that's going to change. I used to sing feelings out of my heart with my music, and I could use that again right now. I jammed with my nephew and his girlfriend. They both sing pretty good! We're going to get together over here and jam down on my amp. Mine is a stage amp. You can't barely even turn it up to 1 without it being too loud for the neighbors. I'm in a house too. If we all plugged into it and with a few mics, we could kick some ***-singing. They also want to go in the in-ground pool out in back. It's surrounded by a tall cement fence around the whole back yard, so you can skinny dip or sunbathe in the nude. All of this, and I'd leave the second Jesus called.

No, I don't sing off key but I have a limited vocal range and less than what I would describe as good tonality, but I got away with it as a solo guitar vocalist (which was affectionately referred to as Git/Vox, though I always considered myself more Git than Vox :)) for 12 years, and would regularly be invited back. Maybe I just pulled the wool over their eyes. I remember having some corking nights though.

I still have a very nice guitar valve amp collecting dust in the other room. I have a couple of nice mics as well including a Sure SM 58, which I used on my gigs for vocals back in the day. Why do I keep them? Probably nostalgia. I probably wouldn't get much if I tried to sell them, they don't take much space and you never know when I might work with a vocalist. :guitar:


I still drive a car, but right now it needs a 'neutral safety switch' on the transmission. Easy to fix. They was $112 for it, so we're going to the Junk Yard and get it free, or for $5 or so.

Yep, one thing I remember from way, way back was the constant hand in the pocked routine of running your own car. Luckily I had a company car while I was doing the TV/Video job, which was nice :)

Hedshaker, your spaghetti bolognese sounds wonderful. We're just going to have some veal burgers 2morrow. Otherwise, canned Chow Mien. If the veal is still good (it was in the freezer) then we'll have that on a bun with fixings. If it's freezer burned, we'll have Chinese or frozen pizza.

;)

Hey, love you and don't be a stranger. I'll write again soon if you don't write me first! Believe me, the last thing I am is lonely. My life is filled. But I love talking with you and my other buddies here. I don't know the last time I was bored. I'm sure it was before I turned 18. I'm 58 now. 40 years!! eeeeek!!

Warmest Regards And Hugs!!

Michael

Have to agree. Just because I live alone doesn't mean I'm lonely. Far from it in fact. If you don't like your own company why should anyone else?

All the best.

PS: As an extra side not I've been meaning to recommend you an excellent set of documentaries:

Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey

I have just embarked on watching it for the second time It's that good. Truly! Yep, it's science based but it doesn't engage in blatant Christian bashing. Instead it sticks to the facts and evidence.

It's a must watch IMO. It's in seven parts (or was it 8?) and it may seem a tad expensive but you could probably rent the box set by post

Recomended :thumb:
 

MichaelCadry

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Dear 6days,

I can see how you are thinking now. It's so tricky the way it is worded in the Bible, but I can believe that there was only one Adam and one Eve, and somehow Cain married a sister? And who was Cain afraid of saying he would be a vagabond in the earth and that anyone might kill him, etc. Who in the heck else would be in the earth? Which inhabitants. You've got me turned around all kinds of ways trying to believe you. I'm really having a lot of trouble believing it your way 6days. I think that God was right when He told me otherwise. I'm not changing my book after all. You are wrong. God had to create at least two Adams for you to have a leg to stand on. Man, I'm having trouble with all of this, but I'll go ahead and believe that too, but I'll be more convinced when I face God and ask Him. So there you go, I believe it all your way. I will have to rewrite my book, and correct the mistake in Chapter One of my book. That will take a while.

Do you think that God made them just look old on purpose? (The Earth, the Universe, other human bones or fossils??)

Of course, I do believe that God created everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th. There's just questions I've got which are in the preceding paragraph. What do you have to say about them? What do you have to say about these questions I have for you. I am trying to believe it your way, but it's teetering.

Thanks 6days,

May God's Spirit Sparkle (Shine) And Come To Life In Your Soul,

Michael

P.S. 6days! Do you see how much your belief confuses things? I'm still in-between and trying to make the right decision.
 
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MichaelCadry

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Patience dear boy. But you do realise we're way off topic now? Oh well, who cares :)

I'm pretty disgusted with Cat Stevens. Great talent, lovely voice, excellent song writer, all thrown away for a bunch of unsubstantiated voodoo. Such a shame. Had he em-brassed different fairytale like Christianity eg. he would at least have been able to peruse his music career. I believe Hank Marvin is a jehovah's witnesses but that didn't stop him from playing the guitar. Not that I think Hank Marvin is in the same league as Cat Stevens talent wise.

Dear Hedshaker,

Oooooh! We're off topic. It's important to get to know each other, so we can make decent decisions. So it's worth it.

I was even more disgusted with him for embracing Islam and I wrote to him and told him about it. Now he's broke because he gave them all of his money. I do hope he still owns the mansion in London. I know his address. I finally asked God to just tell me his address, so I'd know how to get my message to him, and God told me. So I wrote it on the envelope and got through to him. I tried for 8 years on my own to get his address. He's gotten screwed choosing Islam. Even my religion did not rob me as blind as his did. I hope he did keep the mansion for security! I would guess it is paid off with all the money he had back then. Yep, great talent getting promised 72 virgins. It's easy to make mistakes, I guess.

I'm sorry to report Michael but there's no evidence at all for the existence of angels, pixies, fairies, gods and leprechauns etc. Not that I doubt you sincerity. I'm sure you really believe what you say, but the human mind is a deeply flawed mine field (or should I say mind field), especially when infected with profound beliefs usually based on long tern indoctrination. When you really, really want something to be true it is quite capable of providing what you want, completely from within that lump of meat that exists in your skull. Take a few minutes and type the words "confirmation bias" into Google. It's a fascinating subject, well worth a few minutes reading. But no, I have no idea what triggered your experience was but I remain 9.999999 convinced that it wasn't a real angel or a god of any description.

Watch the following video. I don't agree with everything he says be I like his style.

Darryl Sloan


Here's another two little words for your search engine Michael. Type into Google the words, "Peak Experience". Most people have them at some point in their lives and I suppose it's only natural that they should link them to whatever belief system they have adopted.... confirmation bias.... Buddhists and perusers of Transcendental meditation bang on about them, as do people who pray a lot, which is a kind of mediation after all. Maybe they have a point, maybe not. Thing is though Michael, these are all well documented natural phenomena that require no supernatural causation. Otherwise why are none believers subject to the same experiences?

Regarding confirmation bias though we have a good method for over coming it for the most part. It's called science . Double blind testing, peer review and the like. But I won't labour the point here in case the likes of Sel and other thought police descend to bury me in pages and pages of philosophical twaddle, of which I have neither the time or the interest.

As much as I don't really like bursting your bubble Michael it has to be said that an ounce of real world, testable evidence will always greatly out weigh a 1000 volumes of words and empty predictions for what may be to come, especially regarding extraordinary, un-falsifiable claims. Either you have it right and everything greater minds than you and I have learned in the last few hundred years, or you, like all the others are simply mistaken or have become deluded from being under the spell of deeply held, profound beliefs (please don't take that wrong I'm just making a point. It does happen and not just to theists).

So I offer you further input for your search engine. Please type into Google: occam's razor. Don't feel too bad about what I write here. It's not just you that gets my scepticism, but also psychics. dowsers, big foot searchers, alien chasers, ghost hunters etc etc etc.

Wow, that's an awful lot to investigate. 26 mins. for the first video alone. (Daryl Sloan and Peak Experience, and occam's razor). I do get your message though. I will peruse them all though.

No, I don't sing off key but I have a limited vocal range and less than what I would describe as good tonality, but I got away with it as a solo guitar vocalist (which was affectionately referred to as Git/Vox, though I always considered myself more Git than Vox :)) for 12 years, and would regularly be invited back. Maybe I just pulled the wool over their eyes. I remember having some corking nights though.

You sound just fine. I didn't notice any tone problems. My vocal range is limited too, especially after all of those years of smoking. I can't sing as well as I used to, but I bet it would almost all come back to me if I did some practicing. I don't smoke anymore, after 40 years. Now, when you say Git/Vox, you mean Guitar/Vocals, right? What do you mean by corking nites? Champagne, wine, jam sessions, or something else??

I still have a very nice guitar valve amp collecting dust in the other room. I have a couple of nice mics as well including a Sure SM 58, which I used on my gigs for vocals back in the day. Why do I keep them? Probably nostalgia. I probably wouldn't get much if I tried to sell them, they don't take much space and you never know when I might work with a vocalist. :guitar:

Yes, hold onto them. Do you mean a Shure SM 58? I think an Aria guitar is worth some money, because they quit making them. They sounded pretty good. My Amp is a EMC B400 w/o reverb. It's a power amp to the max. I've already got a reverb unit for it (Echo and Chorus), so I've got all that I need. Plus I got my microphone boom stand (the first one I ever bought back from 1973). I used to have a slide, a few capos, music stand, but I don't know where they all went. I've got one capo still left and I treated myself to buying another music stand (for sheet music or books).

Yep, one thing I remember from way, way back was the constant hand in the pocked routine of running your own car. Luckily I had a company car while I was doing the TV/Video job, which was nice :)

Have to agree. Just because I live alone doesn't mean I'm lonely. Far from it in fact. If you don't like your own company why should anyone else?

All the best.

Yes, I've had company cars too, and it's nice to have them without having to pay for the gas in them or pay for the insurance, etc. I almost wrecked a Corvette though. Ayyy! That would be all that I needed. I would have spent the rest of my life paying the money back to fix it. Accident avoided with a very sharp right turn!

You're right. At first, when I lived alone, the first couple months were not the greatest, but after that, I liked living alone just fine. I just had my friends over and it worked out just fine. At least, there is no one there to get it dirty, except yourself. That is nice!! I'm so sick of house cleaning and dusting. I do the cooking here too! Tonight, we had veal patties on 7-grain bread. Delicious. But, I would not buy it myself in the store. It was given to us.

PS: As an extra side not I've been meaning to recommend you an excellent set of documentaries:

Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey

I have just embarked on watching it for the second time It's that good. Truly! Yep, it's science based but it doesn't engage in blatant Christian bashing. Instead it sticks to the facts and evidence.

It's a must watch IMO. It's in seven parts (or was it 8?) and it may seem a tad expensive but you could probably rent the box set by post

Recomended :thumb:

Sounds interesting. National Geographic is wonderful. They do some very good work. The next place I live will have to be an apt. I don't like yard work and cleaning out swimming pools. We also have some cactus gardens with decorative rocks, instead of grass.

Well, Hedshaker, it is ALWAYS so NICE to hear from you and see how things are going for you. I'm wrong about things sometimes too, so I'm still learning. It's kind of late in the game for it, but I'm glad I'm still finding the truth. Interesting as all heck!! :thumb:

Well, I don't know where you live. So I can't say Cheerio!

May My God Watch Over You For Good,

Michael
 
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6days

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Dear 6days,
I can see how you are thinking now. It's so tricky the way it is worded in the Bible, but I can believe that there was only one Adam and one Eve....
I don't think its tricky at all Michael. It is the straight forward reading of God's Word.
and somehow Cain married a sister?
Yes he did. Marrying your brother or sister was not sin...not morally wrong until Levitical law.

And who was Cain afraid of saying he would be a vagabond in the earth and that anyone might kill him, etc. Who in the heck else would be in the earth? Which inhabitants.
Brothers? Sisters?
Grandchildren? Nephews? His father?
There is no problem with Genesis 4:12 Michael. What do you think the population on earth was when Cain killed Abel? 10? 100? 1000? We don't know. We don't know is Cain was 50 years old or 200 years old when he murdered his bro.


Do you think that God made them just look old on purpose? (The Earth, the Universe, other human bones or fossils??)
Michael.... Nothing in the universe looks "old". You have been told that by evolutionists. Do you think Adam looked up at the stars, or seen the bananas growing on trees, and doubted that God had just created everything? Did Eve look at Adam, calling God a liar since Adam looked more than one day old? Fossils support the Biblical record Michael yet you seem to want to believe everything contradicts the plain teaching of God's Word.
I am trying to believe it your way, but it's teetering.
Don't believe anything I say unless its supported by the truth of scripture.
 

6days

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PS: As an extra side not I've been meaning to recommend you an excellent set of documentaries:

Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
I have just embarked on watching it for the second time It's that good. Truly! Yep, it's science based but it doesn't engage in blatant Christian bashing. Instead it sticks to the facts and evidence.
Oh goodness!!!
Yes Tyson does have some science in that series... I only seen the first episode myself. It was enjoyable but much of it was based on atheist beliefs and not science.For example he talked about multiverse universes as if it was fact. That is scientism; there isn't a wisp of evidence for his belief..... Tyson is really just a promoter of atheism.
 

noguru

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Dear Hedshaker,

Oooooh! We're off topic. It's important to get to know each other, so we can make decent decisions. So it's worth it.

I was even more disgusted with him for embracing Islam and I wrote to him and told him about it. Now he's broke because he gave them all of his money. I do hope he still owns the mansion in London. I know his address. I finally asked God to just tell me his address, so I'd know how to get my message to him, and God told me. So I wrote it on the envelope and got through to him. I tried for 8 years on my own to get his address. He's gotten screwed choosing Islam. Even my religion did not rob me as blind as his did. I hope he did keep the mansion for security! I would guess it is paid off with all the money he had back then. Yep, great talent getting promised 72 virgins. It's easy to make mistakes, I guess.....

Cheerio!

May My God Watch Over You For Good,

Michael

I shortened it because I just wanted so say. Whoever likes Cat Stevens "almost" as much as me can't be half bad.

Miles from Nowhere
 

Hedshaker

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Oh goodness!!!
Yes Tyson does have some science in that series... I only seen the first episode myself. It was enjoyable but much of it was based on atheist beliefs and not science.For example he talked about multiverse universes as if it was fact. That is scientism; there isn't a wisp of evidence for his belief..... Tyson is really just a promoter of atheism.

Well I understand your need to believe that but in reality Neil deGrasse Tyson is highly respected in the science community and for what it's worth, the series was presented by Tyson but not written by him. It's a spin of from the original series written by Carl Sagan. But anyway, I don't remember any "truth claims" about multiverse being made. I have the box set so I will check later. In fact, it was made quite clear when an idea was put forward as more of a thought experiment. In fact, Tyson was honest enough to admit that certain aspects are not known, which is something I've never heard a creationist own up to.

As I understand it the series is hugely successful and I can assure you it's about science, and the history of scientific discovery. Of course it doesn't mention intelligent design/creationism so maybe that's what you mean by promoting atheism. But then why should it? ID/Creationism isn't science, is it?
 

MichaelCadry

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Dear noguru,

I must have been the biggest Cat Stevens fan around. I talked with one of his band members on the phone during his concert in Detroit, MI. I saw him in concert at the Majikat tour he did the next time he came to Detroit. I received a letter from him written in Calligraphy and still have it. It happened after he embraced Islam though. I wrote him back and told him he was doing the wrong thing choosing Islam, and that was the last time I heard from him. But me and Cat's personal secretary sent many LONG letters to each other. And Steve (Cat) sent me a booklet that he had printed up that he wrote and drew the animation for. And he sent me a scripture on paper and said I should burn it up after I've read it (Arabic superstition?). Well, I hardly burnt it up. I still have it. I tried for 8 years to get a hold of that guy and it was so dang difficult because he was so reclusive. So I finally said, "God, why don't you just tell me his address?" And lo and behold, He gives me the address. I wrote the letter to him and finally received one from him. I was trying to get a hold of him in time for him to embrace Christianity and the visions and angel visits I'd had (one vision and visit by the Holy Ghost was about him, which is why I wanted to contact him). But no, he goes and embraces Islam instead and do you know how hard it is to talk a Muslim out of Islam?? Especially when only his Islamic secretary decides which letters to give him?? Islam kept asking him for money. Tons and tons of it. I do still hope he's got some. I heard he was broke. Maybe he will turn to God and Christianity because I just realized I can pray for that too, and maybe God will grant my request, just like He did with the address. I've tried for years and couldn't. I've got to give it a good ol' try and see if it will help. I have enough faith in it. It's really in God's Hands.

Oh well, I will not go on any longer about this for now. Check me on the flip-flop!!

Love You In Christ, noguru---

Michael
 
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