Just wondering why Simeon was able to carry Him in his arms (Luke 2:25-28).
Creation vs. Evolution II
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Dear Greg,
What does it matter if he can't? He gets advice and instruction from the One Source easily higher than any professor or scientist, and that is where the real impact comes from. Haven't you noticed that? He doesn't have to please you. He wants to please his God. Is that so wrong? An emphatic 'No' will suffice.
God Knows What You Think And Feel,
Michael
Right there.
Since is was declared a national holiday by various presidents, a religious thanksgiving would represent the establishment of a religion, which is surely unconstitutional.
Unconstitutional thanksgiving:
Constitutional thanksgiving:
But why are the answers always
either: 'No' (silence)
or: 'I'm sure you'll work it out' (indicated by silence)?
Stuart
Dear Stuart,
You do know that it is written in our Constitution that, "We hold these truths to be self-evident. That ALL men are created EQUAL. That they are endowed by their Creator {God} with certain unalienable rights." Also, that we say, "One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." I could go on. There is separation of church and state here, but not to every degree as you'd think. Otherwise, our country would never have attained it's greatness, which it may soon lose because of people wanting to be rid of God from our money, songs, etc. And we have seemingly turned our backs on Israel, because of President Obama. But it was foretold in the Bible that "EVERY" nation shall be against Israel in those latter days.
There, that is better than "Silence."
God Bless Our Country/Nation!!
Michael
Well indeed, it might be. They are the words of men. Better than the silence of the god they imagine.
Don't you think E pluribus unum is a more fitting motto than In God We Trust? The Latin one unifies, the official one divides. Is a Disunited States greater than a United States?
Stuart
Dear Hedshaker,
So when you are nonplussed for words to answer back with, you give up and rap your knuckles with a ruler?? There's a lot more to learn about life yet, HS. You're backed into a corner and now you want to just get out? Who is the true nit-wit, HS? It is you, you know? Your "reality" is one of the biggest lies known to men and God, AND Satan. Satan is the author of confusion and he's got you by the cods wallop. You will find out the truth in your lifetime from what I understand, Hedshaker. Just remember how I came and warned you first, and you would not listen. Besides that, don't EVER give up searching for God, for He will have you if you will have Him. Don't ever let an evil devil con you out of your birthright!! As long as you remain faithful and loyal to God, He will be the same towards you.
Selah!
Michael
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Point taken but, when someone doggedly refuses to give reason even a look in then often a little shock therapy can be the kindest way. Pampering to the Dunning Kruger Effect is anything but kind, IMO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning Michaels sincerity. Stripe has, as good as, suggested that Michael's angel visits etc are drug induced delusions, but there are far more simple, commonplace and natural explanations than that. And the more fantastic and free of evidence the proposals are the more we are inclined to employ Occam's Razor, IMO. Alien abduction, Big Foot and Elvis sightings, eg?
But when someone blanket refuses to even consider it then maybe a kick in the pants might help. It is 'blankly refuses,' not 'blanket' refuses. Also, don't lay Occam's Razor on me.
But you could be right. My patience isn't what it used to be
Dear Hedshaker,
You used to be kind to me also before. What happened to you and your music? I guess you just don't like me anymore because I am stuck with the job of having to tell you some things you don't want to hear. I am not a case of Occam's Razor, nor the Dunning Kruger effect. You just wish it. But I can understand your reasoning, because it is so hard to believe me. So I will just settle for you not believing me, but at least, reconsider believing in God and Jesus!! Your words to me cause me to respond in the way that I do, thinking I am the one who needs help, when it is you and your disbelief in your Creator that is the problem. I was glad you chose to be an Agnostic Atheist after all, but the fact is it doesn't matter much. An atheist is what you simply call yourself, not an Agnostic. I will let you go and do your thing instead of trying to talk some sense into you. Someday, you'll know why I tried so hard to help you become a believer instead of a nonbeliever. It's because I do care about you that I even try! Okay, I'm not going to be bothered anymore unless egged on to say something. How is your music doing? Did you check out those music effects from Lady Gaga's song, "Angel Down" on her newly released 'Joanne' Deluxe CD? What a difference it makes having the right music and eeriness. Check it out. You might find it is something you'd like to use in your own music. I think that it is heavy on the violins. I really don't know how they did/made it.
Ok, will get going. Take good care of yourself and remember to have fun when you can.
Much Love And Cheerio, Matey!!
Michael
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Dear Stuart,
I am hardly trying to be malicious, Stuu!! You all can dish it out, but can't take it or handle what comes next. That's what it seems like to me. What can I liken you to be? One of the three little piggies who made their house out of straw, I think. Well, I'll close for now.
Michael
Dear Stuart,
I am hardly trying to be malicious, Stuu!! And I'm far from stupid or a fool. I'll give you more to chew on later. You all can dish it out, but can't handle what comes next. That's what it seems like to me. What can I liken you to be? One of the three little piggies who made their house out of straw, I think. Well, I'll close for now.
Michael
Hedshaker
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You're right. Ignorance can be addressed by education, but there is no cure for stupidity. I just find Dunning Kruger a tad infuriating....... but I'll just have to get over it I guess
musterion
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............because you're too stupid to realize that you're a prime example of it.
Hedshaker
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Classic Dunning Kruger Effect right there. But you can't see that because you don't get it. Even if you have the guts to watch the video, you still won't get. So no, it has nothing to do with being "nonplussed". That's just you thinking you're smarter than you actually are. By a large magnitude I might add. So no, it's simply a case of there being no point.
But click the link and watch the video, if you dare......
Dunning Kruger Effect
Hedshaker
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There it is right there. But you're too stupid to realise it... Enjoy the video with you buddy, Michael
marhig
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Satan has created racism, and some humans foolish enough to listen to him do his will and hurt others because their hearts are hard. Why would anyone judge another person just because of the colour of their skin? People who do this and profess to know God, don't know him at all and they've never experienced the holy spirit within. Because if they had, the colour of another person's skin would mean nothing to them and they would love all regardless of what colour they are. God created all of us, black people too. And anyone that hates a person because of their colour doesn't belong to God. God is love not hate, and these people who do wicked things to others hide behind God, but they don't know him at all!
There's another effect that means a religious believer is immunised against changing his mind in the face of overwhelming evidence.You're right. Ignorance can be addressed by education, but there is no cure for stupidity. I just find Dunning Kruger a tad infuriating....... but I'll just have to get over it I guess
Saint Paul told him there would be mockers.
Is there a name for that?!
Stuart
The problem with the 'satan created' argument is there are plenty who might argue that satan created equal opportunities legislation and the civil rights movement, lunatic though all that is.
I far prefer the scientific arguments against racism. When you are trying to describe humans accurately, the word race doesn't help. Really, race is a nonsense term. We are all the same species. If you want to consider genetic differences between humans, skin colour and other 'racial' features are quite trivial: actually it would be possible for me, a white European, to be genetically more similar to a black African than to my neighbour who is also white European.
I think there is a kind of inbuilt xenophobia in us that comes from our tribal existence as African hominids (we are all Africans, after all), so racist tendencies could be understandable up to a point. However, I think actually racism is mostly a learned response, and children who have not been brought up to interpret skin colour are generally shocked to learn that others would judge on that basis. Racism is shocking when you think about how illogical it is, not to mention the lack of justice in it.
Stuart
So they were created by a god?
How do you explain the fact that there is no animal species which reproduces by sexual acts that does not also have homosexual activity?
Stuart
I'm afraid I think Hedshaker is right: you are a classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. I also think you have been immunised by Saul of Tarsus. You are not being intentionally malicious. I don't think you are stupid either; obviously you are capable of writing and publishing and showing empathy and no doubt many other sophisticated human activities. It's not stupidity per se, it's ignorance.
You don't know enough about science, and you don't understand how immunised you are by your tribe against considering the opposing arguments and opposing evidence to your position. It all may as well not exist, your brain tells you, and you are happy to be part of the choir that laps up and reinforces the creationist lies copied from Answers in Genesis by 6days, Stripe etc.
You are not stupid, or a liar I think. You are one of the immunised ignorant.
Stuart
Greg Jennings
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Michael, I can guarantee you that God isn't lying to 6days about Earth's origins in private visits. Assuming he exists, he's far too busy to take time out of his busy schedule to play tricks on one of his faithful believers