Coronavirus, Donald Trump and Medicare for All

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That certainly helped in the late 90s, but Clinton began shrinking the deficit well before the dotcom boom started. From my link above: The Clinton years showed the effects of a large tax increase that Clinton pushed through in his first year, and that Republicans incorrectly claim is the “largest tax increase in history.” It fell almost exclusively on upper-income taxpayers.

Republicans are completely delusional when it comes to "fiscal responsibility." Reagan, Bush and Trump all created massive deficits. Clinton and Obama both shrank those deficits.

Republicans are so delusional that they think that if you cut taxes, you increase revenue. Even though they keep trying, and that practically NEVER happens.

When you provide massive tax cuts to the rich and massively increase the military budget, yes, you are going to create a massive deficit.
 

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LOL. A stupid little virus will make us all Communists. Not on this planet.

Is this how they teach you to debate in college?

The United States is the only one of the 33 developed countries in the world that doesn’t have universal health care. Do you think they are all communists?

You sound like you've been brainwashed by Joseph McCarthy in a time machine from the Cold War Era.
 

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saw this the other day:

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^ This. We've heard it all before.

Remember swine flu? It happened and some people died, but the rest of us somehow managed to survive and move on. "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths." -- https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-...ine-flu-770496

The media hype of the coronavirus will be no different.
 

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There are hundreds of Bulk Oil carriers anchored in Texan waters and with full cargoes, but with nowhere to take them. Chinese travel and industry has closed down so much that satellite pictures of China show clean clear skies where previously the whole country was smog ridden. All our Stock markets are crashing.
And gold has shot up to level with its previous highest value.

If this carries on escalating there is going to be a drastic World pandemic, maybe as bad as the Spanish flu which took about 20 million back in 1918-1920
 

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There are now three confirmed cases of community transmission of the coronavirus in the US. .

We have three cases in the UK, of communal transmission (out of about 65). These cases are the most worrying because trying to follow the victim's tracks over recent weeks can be impossible. This means that we've lost the first phase of any prevention measures.
 

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Coronavirus updates:

1. Children largely aren't getting sick.

https://www.today.com/health/corona...-experts-simply-do-not-understand-why-t175156

2. It's mostly old people who are dying from it.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03...n-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/

3. And there's at least two strains of the coronavirus (and, thus at least two chances to get sick from it), one of which is FAR more lethal than the other. This explains the phenomena of people getting "reinfected."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/scientists-identified-strains-covid-19/story?id=69391954

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The calls for cutting the federal government's budget and perhaps even balancing it have continued and are likely to grow louder during this election year.

By whom?

Show me a single poll which shows that Americans are calling for "cutting the federal government's budget."

One. Show me one.
 

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By whom?

Show me a single poll which shows that Americans are calling for "cutting the federal government's budget."

One. Show me one.

polls are no more than meaningless sets of random numbers. The debt is actually good!

To understand this, start by imagining a world in which there is no government and no foreign countries. All economic activity in the US would take place domestically and be carried out by our private sector firms and households. As a group, they would earn what they spent. If all American firms and households spent $1000, then–because one of them was standing on the other side of the cash register for each of these transactions–American firms and households would earn $1000. It is logically impossible for them, as a group (though not as individuals), to spend more or less than what they earned–the values must be identical because it’s really double-entry bookkeeping. Every transaction that takes place is both spending (for the person buying something) and income (for the person selling something).

Now create a government. It is only at this point that it becomes possible for one sector (private or government) to spend more than they earned or earn more than they spent. For example, say over its first year in existence, the government takes in $100 in tax revenues but doesn’t spend any of it. You might have something like this:
income Private Government Total
$1000 $100 $1100
spending $1100 $0 $1100
Balance -$100 +$100 $0

In this case, the private sector spent $1000 on the goods and services it created (which is what created the $1000 in income for them), plus they spent $100 for taxes. The government, meanwhile, earned $100 in income (via taxes), but spent nothing. The government budget is thus is surplus, while the private sector has gone into debt–by the exact same amount, of course. It is impossible for it to work out any other way. The balances must add to zero because, as the last column indicates, total spending must equal total income in a closed system. And with the government in surplus, the private sector goes into debt.
 
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