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Karma is anti Christ.
Christianity vs karma
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Karma is anti Christ.
freelight
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You apparently did not read the entire thread and have a misconstrued understanding of 'karma'. I suggest a proper education before making a false assessment.
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karma does not blend with Christianity
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Exactly. So glad to here this.
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You are falsely judging me on the hopes that what you believe that is based on falseness is not understood.
freelight
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Action and consequence.....
Action and consequence.....
Not really, just saying that your understanding of 'karma' could use some further educating and enlightening upon, especially from a universal perspective understanding the eastern and western religious traditions and their dissertations upon it. The Hindu, Jainist, Buddhist traditions and their philosophers have some wonderful insights, and some schools differ on how they explain or correlate the principle, BUT 'karma' as meaning 'action and consequence'...includes the whole process and dynamic of cause/effect relationships, how actions or movements affect or bring into consequence other movements in their reactive patterns and cycles. Again, 'karma' is a universal law, so to speak,....all actions affect corresponding actions, and SO ON. - what a man sows, that also he reaps,...so as long as their is activity,...there is karma. Henceforth, all souls are judged or their situation is conditioned "by their works". When a soul can balance, alleviate or atone for all negative karma, tip the scales, or transcend karma altogether thru union with God and spiritual purification, that sphere of unity with Spirit is 'heaven'.
Action and consequence.....
Not really, just saying that your understanding of 'karma' could use some further educating and enlightening upon, especially from a universal perspective understanding the eastern and western religious traditions and their dissertations upon it. The Hindu, Jainist, Buddhist traditions and their philosophers have some wonderful insights, and some schools differ on how they explain or correlate the principle, BUT 'karma' as meaning 'action and consequence'...includes the whole process and dynamic of cause/effect relationships, how actions or movements affect or bring into consequence other movements in their reactive patterns and cycles. Again, 'karma' is a universal law, so to speak,....all actions affect corresponding actions, and SO ON. - what a man sows, that also he reaps,...so as long as their is activity,...there is karma. Henceforth, all souls are judged or their situation is conditioned "by their works". When a soul can balance, alleviate or atone for all negative karma, tip the scales, or transcend karma altogether thru union with God and spiritual purification, that sphere of unity with Spirit is 'heaven'.
freelight
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Actions and their corresponding effects are universal in nature, and recognized by most all religious traditions, schools of science and personal human experience. If you plant pumpkin seeds, what do those particular seeds produce?
Actions and their corresponding effects are universal in nature, and recognized by most all religious traditions, schools of science and personal human experience. If you plant pumpkin seeds, what do those particular seeds produce?
It seems that you are saying "We reap what we sow" is not originated from Bible.
Am I right?
freelight
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I'm simply saying the universal law of karma is recognized by most all religious traditions, since its a fact of life that we see that actions have consequences. There are different aspects about karma that are explained or described in different ways in each religious tradition. Paul simply recognized the law, and said "God (divine law) is not mocked, what a man sows that also shall he reap". He recognized that sowing to the flesh or the spirit will bring corresponding results, since a tree is known by its fruit.
I believe they all got the idea from Hebrew God.
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all of your good works will not get you to heaven .Actions and their corresponding effects are universal in nature, and recognized by most all religious traditions, schools of science and personal human experience. If you plant pumpkin seeds, what do those particular seeds produce?
Isa 64:6 We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment.
only through faith in Jesus Christ are you justified by his grace as a gift
Gen 15:6 And he believed the LORD, and he counted it to him as righteousness.
Christianity is not like any other religion , karma is a lie, it is about self righteousness.
Rom 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.
Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”
Rom 4:4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due.
Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
freelight
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Inter-dependent co-creation........
Inter-dependent co-creation........
That particular subject is not the main focus here,...but the principle of karma, the law of sowing & reaping, cause & effect, action and consequence, compensation, balance. Readers can access our previous dialogue and gain more insight here.
That's a particular concept put forward.
Karma is NOT about what your assuming it is, by presuming things. Karma is a universal principle or law of nature, referring to the cause, course, sequence of actions as it relates to or affects following actions or effects. There is no religious concept of 'self-righteousness' or 'imputed righteousness' involved. However,...as Paul says...'God (divine law) is not mocked, whatever is sown shall be reaped'. This observation of natural law is universal thru-out nature. As long as there is any action, there is by definition and movement 'karma', and this inter-relates and affects all successive and corresponding actions.
The Buddhist concept of 'dependent origination' (Pratītyasamutpāda) expands on this as all actions are inter-depedent on preceding actions, and all karma is therefore conditional. - all actions are related.
Faith has its place as a substance or force within the greater cosmic play of course - therefore grace and faith do have their causal affections, so to speak. Everything still unfolds and is determined by a cooperative process of inter-related choices and actions.
Inter-dependent co-creation........
That particular subject is not the main focus here,...but the principle of karma, the law of sowing & reaping, cause & effect, action and consequence, compensation, balance. Readers can access our previous dialogue and gain more insight here.
That's a particular concept put forward.
Karma is NOT about what your assuming it is, by presuming things. Karma is a universal principle or law of nature, referring to the cause, course, sequence of actions as it relates to or affects following actions or effects. There is no religious concept of 'self-righteousness' or 'imputed righteousness' involved. However,...as Paul says...'God (divine law) is not mocked, whatever is sown shall be reaped'. This observation of natural law is universal thru-out nature. As long as there is any action, there is by definition and movement 'karma', and this inter-relates and affects all successive and corresponding actions.
The Buddhist concept of 'dependent origination' (Pratītyasamutpāda) expands on this as all actions are inter-depedent on preceding actions, and all karma is therefore conditional. - all actions are related.
Faith has its place as a substance or force within the greater cosmic play of course
- therefore grace and faith do have their causal affections, so to speak. Everything still unfolds and is determined by a cooperative process of inter-related choices and actions.
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Karma is evil. The Holy Bible does not teach karma. Karma says that a person born mentally and or physically disabled means they were an evil person in a former life and are getting what they deserve.
You are evil to preach such a religion.
freelight
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No, I do not want to read an article.
I know what karma teaches.
If you think you can change the meaning of karma as you do the words in the Bible then it is all fake what you say and not accurate information.
Matthew 6:19-21 (KJV)
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
freelight
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Not an article dear,
A related and informative post in another thread, addressing the issue of salvation by grace, and how that karma still factors into everything, as long as there is action of any kind. Action, sequence, consequence. Its a matter of considering and contemplating the metaphysics involved in any activity, since any action has karmic effects by nature, - all movements of thought, energy, words, intentions, physical motions....engender or foster consequential actions, and so on. - its a law of nature, you cant get around it, no matter what kind of 'theoritical salvation' or concept of 'theology' you choose to believe in. Therefore you have to factor in, the law of karma and how it fits into your 'theology'. This would include learning more about what it entails, from different religious traditions and schools who have scholars and theologians who have studied many years these subjects, and then verified them by personal human experience. There's always more to learn.
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The only way we can lay up treasures in heaven is by obeying Jesus' powerful words.
Catholics do NOT obey Jesus.
Catholics do what God hates.
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Why do you ignore the things that I say? How do you ever get that ignoring what I say is some kind of superior peace?
'Karma' is not to be mixed in with God's Truth.
The word 'karma' is from one of your false gods, who, according to God, are demons.
We reap what we sow means if you are sinful on this earth, when you die you will reap eternal punishment; or you do right you will reap eternal life.
That is NOT what 'karma' means. Karma means that if a baby is born with a mental disability, such as retardation, or autism, or any mental illness...then that person was an evil person in their former life, and that they are now getting what they deserve in this life.
According to those who believe in karma, it is a joyful moment to see someone suffer in such a way, because they are getting what they deserve, and you are then privileged in life to see such a child or adult suffer.
You claim a doctrine of demons as your form of knowledge. You preach evil, just like those who reject Christ.