Catholics Should Believe Their First Pope

Sancocho

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You are wrong because Jesus does not have a church for Peter to lead and Peter cannot lead any thing from the grave. He has been dead for about 2000 years already. I thought you knew that by now.

You are on a Christian forum, I would have thought you knew that by now.
 

Right Divider

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You have no references that can prove we did not give you your bible.
Being the brain-washed religionist that you are, you completely ignore that fact that there is NO WAY to "prove" a negative. You and the other RCC'ers here are complete ILLOGICAL in this regard.

But if you are dumb enough to think that the RCC "gave us" the books of Moses, then your brain-washing is complete.

Scripture is given by inspiration of God and nobody needs a bogus religion to figure that out.
 

Sancocho

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Being the brain-washed religionist that you are, you completely ignore that fact that there is NO WAY to "prove" a negative. You and the other RCC'ers here are complete ILLOGICAL in this regard.

But if you are dumb enough to think that the RCC "gave us" the books of Moses, then your brain-washing is complete.

Scripture is given by inspiration of God and nobody needs a bogus religion to figure that out.

I am a graduate engineer now involved in teaching and research and have to take with a grain of salt all empty claims.
 

everready

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I am a graduate engineer now involved in teaching and research and have to take with a grain of salt all empty claims.

Do you think God cares about your degree he wants us to become like a Publican.

Luke 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


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everready

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It matters not what we think about your man made religion.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?


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Grosnick Marowbe

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Any Catholic that hears the Grace Message, places their faith in
Christ as their Savior, is sealed, indwelt, and baptized (not by water)
into the Body of Christ, will NOT stay with the Catholic church. They
will seek out a church that preaches true Doctrine. Catholicism is
a false religion.
 

Cruciform

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Don't you mean he gave us his Holy Spirit...
He sent the Holy Spirit to the Magisterium (apostles/bishops) of Christ's one historic Church to guide it into all truth (Mt. 28:18-20; Lk. 10:16; Ac. 15:2; 16:4; Eph. 3:5, 10; 2 Thess. 3:4; 1 Tim. 3:15; 1 Jn. 4:6). If we laymen want the fullness of the truth, we must turn to the authoritative teachings of the Church.

...no man made religion gives us salvation only God can do that...
The Catholic Church, however, is in fact that one historic Church founded by Jesus Christ himself---no mere man.



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
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Grosnick Marowbe

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He sent the Holy Spirit to the Magisterium (apostles/bishops) of Christ's one historic Church to guide it into all truth (Mt. 28:18-20; Lk. 10:16; Ac. 15:2; 16:4; Eph. 3:5, 10; 2 Thess. 3:4; 1 Tim. 3:15; 1 Jn. 4:6). If we laymen want the fullness of the truth, we must turn to the authoritative teachings of the Church.


The Catholic Church, however, is in fact that one historic Church founded by Jesus Christ himself---no mere man.



Gaudium de veritate,

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Deception at its finest.
 

Cruciform

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It matters not what we think about your man made religion.

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Now you can go ahead and apply all that to the myriad competing and contradictory recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sects in existence to date, with more being concocted every week.



Gaudium de veritate,

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