badp
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Stupid women are the problem. So are stupid men.
are you a feminist?
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Stupid women are the problem. So are stupid men.
lifeisgood
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glorydaz
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glorydaz
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She shoots before she draws and points. I wonder if she still has all her toes. :think:
So you realize that if you don't have "spousal rape" your entire argument fails?
The mindset that government coercion and the twisting of justice is required to achieve certain outcomes.
Family court laws. The ones listed in my post.
Yes, that was your claim - that women were not free in American history. I take it since you merely restated your claim instead of supporting it that you have no support? Care to provide some?
So you have anti-support for your claim.
Women's preferences have nothing to do with my commitments to equality. You're obfuscating.
Men being forced by negative consequences in family court to have certain relationships with women have left women more unhappy than they used to be. You'd rather make things worse for women, and I'd prefer they be happier again.
What do you mean by "don't have spousal rape"?
Well that's vague and useless. I have no idea what you're even referring to from that.
Your post didn't list any actual laws. It listed some vague notions that might be related to some laws. Which is funny, in part, given how pedantic you were earlier about specific laws in specific states, and the notion that I needed to provide you chapter and verse from them. Well, family law is almost exclusively a state issue, and the laws in question are state laws.
Also, it's so weirdly specific that I have to believe that you have a special ax to grind here. How have the family court laws hurt you?
If you can't find it with the minimal amount of Googling it would require, I don't feel a lot of obligation to say more. Especially given your somewhat tenuous grasp of facts in general.
What makes you think I have any regard for what you think makes women happy? Talk about an unsupportable assertion.
Arthur Brain
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Just so you know the real difference between 'egalitarianism' and 'feminism'.
Yay, thanks for sharing that tidbit of invaluable wisdom there Crucible. What would anyone do without it?
Well, quite a lot as it goes but hey...
If you didn't have the accusation that back before there were "spousal rape" laws men thought raping women was OK, you'd have no accusation at all.
US family courts have become a minefield for men. Men are convicted of rape and domestic violence without anything more than the word of a single female. Men almost always lose their children in divorce even though fathers are demonstrably better for raising their children, based on her word against his. Men are required to pay whatever liability a judge can dream up while women never incur, relatively, any cost of liability. All these outcomes come from a mindset that the government can force men to pay for crimes committed against women in history. It's a mindset that violence against men is OK.
I never asked you for specific laws. That is just you wanting me to demand something that I never did. You could have been very unspecific about national laws; for example you could have given the counter to laws that result in children being taken from their fathers and false accusations being allowed to stand based on a single witness.
So you can't actually list any evidence.
It's entirely supportable. Women are less happy now than they were before "spousal rape" laws were dreamed up.
And how do we know that women want their men to be stronger and smarter than women are? Because Game works.
In other words, you don't believe that there should be spousal rape laws. Men should be entitled to take sex from their wives whenever they want?
Deeper and deeper we go. Rape and domestic violence aren't generally handled in family courts, they're handled in criminal courts. But, it seems, you're some kind of "men's rights" activist or similar.
We have a pickup artist in the room, I guess. Well, that explains a lot.
Arthur Brain
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If it's 'entirely supportable' then you might get around to giving some actual support for your view...
You know, so that it isn't just you...being a spokesperson for the majority of women...kinda thing...
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brewmama
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If it's 'entirely supportable' then you might get around to giving some actual support for your view...
You know, so that it isn't just you...being a spokesperson for the majority of women...kinda thing...
"University of Pennsylvania researchers Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers studied the happiness of women in the United States from the 1970s through present day and found an astounding conclusion: the more society accommodated women, gave them jobs, and scholarships, and supported them living single, and encouraged them to pursue their own private dreams and goals, to dress and act as masculine as they wanted to, and to shun any ideas of universal beauty or happiness in pursuit of their own private desires, the LESS happy they were"...
http://www.returnofkings.com/71027/there-is-scientific-proof-that-feminism-is-failing-women
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brewmama
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All told, more than 1.3 million men and women have been surveyed over the last 40 years, both here in the U.S. and in developed countries around the world. Wherever researchers have been able to collect reliable data on happiness, the finding is always the same: greater educational, political, and employment opportunities have corresponded to decreases in life happiness for women, as compared to men.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marcus-buckingham/whats-happening-to-womens_b_289511.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marcus-buckingham/whats-happening-to-womens_b_289511.html