ARCHIVE: Pro-choice on abortion, Anti-choice on avatars

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Servo

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At least it's not dead fetus :thumb:

What is a pregnant women who wants an abortion sees one of those graphic signs and changes her mind and decides to keep the baby. Would that change your mind about the graphic signs?
 

Shwirly

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What if a pregnant women who wants an abortion sees one of those graphic signs and changes her mind and decides to keep the baby. Would that change your mind about the graphic signs?

No. I don't approve of graphic imagery in propaganda (propaganda as in the technical meaning, not the negative connotation).

Requiring an ultrasound before an abortion, now that is something I could get behind. I read that in a thread around here, and I greatly like the sound of it.
 

Servo

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No. I don't approve of graphic imagery in propaganda (propaganda as in the technical meaning, not the negative connotation).

Your worries about propaganda (which it isn't, it is the truth) are a bigger concern than the life of a child?

You are a real loser.
 

Nathon Detroit

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Requiring an ultrasound before an abortion, now that is something I could get behind. I read that in a thread around here, and I greatly like the sound of it.
Ahhhh... so you like to see your prey before you kill it and not after. Is that what you are saying?
 

Shwirly

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Ahhhh... so you like to see your prey before you kill it and not after. Is that what you are saying?

I would never have an abortion unless there were very serious medical complications, and I mean very serious.

And I meant ultrasound as a deterrent, a way to awaken the mother to the humanity of their child and make them realize their mistake. I also meant, not Right before the actual procedure, more like, the attendants have to check them over and preform an ultrasound before even really getting to the discussion of why they've come to the clinic.
 

Shwirly

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Your worries about propaganda (which it isn't, it is the truth) are a bigger concern than the life of a child?

You are a real loser.

Your maturity is quite astounding, I'm totally blown away by your words.
I never said I wasn't concerned about the life of the child, I clearly gave an alternative way to potentially save the life of a child.

see the above post and read all of it this time.
 

Nathon Detroit

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And I meant ultrasound as a deterrent, a way to awaken the mother to the humanity of their child and make them realize their mistake. I also meant, not Right before the actual procedure, more like, the attendants have to check them over and preform an ultrasound before even really getting to the discussion of why they've come to the clinic.
Yet if after viewing the baby via an ultra-sound the mother still wanted to murder the baby you support that, right?
 

Servo

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What is a pregnant women who wants an abortion sees one of those graphic signs and changes her mind and decides to keep the baby. Would that change your mind about the graphic signs?

No. I don't approve of graphic imagery in propaganda (propaganda as in the technical meaning, not the negative connotation).

Requiring an ultrasound before an abortion, now that is something I could get behind. I read that in a thread around here, and I greatly like the sound of it.

Your worries about propaganda (which it isn't, it is the truth) are a bigger concern than the life of a child?

You are a real loser.

Your maturity is quite astounding, I'm totally blown away by your words.
I never said I wasn't concerned about the life of the child, I clearly gave an alternative way to potentially save the life of a child.

see the above post and read all of it this time.

See my first question again and read it this time.
 

Shwirly

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Yet if after viewing the baby via an ultra-sound the mother still wanted to murder the baby you support that, right?

I support the right to choose, but am against abortion. It's a rather contradictory point of view, but there you have it. And I'm just not going to debate this any more, this isn't really the thread for this.
 

Servo

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I support the right to choose, but am against abortion. It's a rather contradictory point of view, but there you have it. And I'm just not going to debate this any more, this isn't really the thread for this.

Contradictory is right. You bought into the abortion-->"choice=freedom" lie. It is not a choice, it is murder and you condone it.

Babies don't want to be ripped apart if they had the "choice".

Funny, this from a socialist who WANTS you to pay tyrannically high taxes buts reserves the right to "choose" to murder an innocent baby.

Public school anyone?
 

Shwirly

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Contradictory is right. You bought into the abortion-->"choice=freedom" lie. It is not a choice, it is murder and you condone it.

Babies don't want to be ripped apart if they had the "choice".

Funny, this from a socialist who WANTS you to pay tyrannically high taxes buts reserves the right to "choose" to murder an innocent baby.

Public school anyone?

If a girl is so determined to kill their unborn child, and there aren't clinics openly available and regulated, her life could be lost as well due to seedy back door practices. When invasive medical procedures go underground, things get worse, not better.

Where will you protest and prevent murder, if the clinics are hidden, hmm?

What if the girl is being forced to do the procedure: an underground clinic won't care, they're doing illegal things already. A clinic, like Planned Parenthood, is expected to report such abuse, and do what the mother wants, not what some pimp/sexual abuser/jerk lover wants.
 

Turbo

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Don't edit my quotes to make it look like I said things I didn't.

I added a phrase in brackets to clarify what you were talking about. I wasn't trying to fool anyone; that's why I used brackets. It's common practice in publishing.

Surely you weren't talking about one's right to choose generally, right? Weren't you referring to a person's so-called "right" to choose to hire an abortionist to murder her pre-born baby?
 

Shwirly

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I added a phrase in brackets to clarify what you were talking about. I wasn't trying to fool anyone; that's why I used brackets. It's common practice in publishing.

Surely you weren't talking about one's right to choose generally, right? Weren't you referring to a person's so-called "right" to choose to hire an abortionist to murder her pre-born baby?

I just didn't like it included in the quote box. And I've already stated my POV.
 

Turbo

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If a girl is so determined to kill their unborn child, and there aren't clinics openly available and regulated, her life could be lost as well due to seedy back door practices. When invasive medical procedures go underground, things get worse, not better.
Murder is supposed to be risky. Abortion, like all murder, should be a capital crime.

Where will you protest and prevent murder, if the clinics are hidden, hmm?
Maybe we should de-criminalize all murder. Then Planned Parenthood could offer to murder people of all ages. Then we could try to talk some sense into those murderers who would otherwise commit their crimes in secret, and possibly get hurt or killed in the process.

Maybe we should have allowed Nazi Germany to keep their death-camps running. That way we could protest there! :hammer: That sure would cut down on the number of Jews that are murdered every year.

What if the girl is being forced to do the procedure: an underground clinic won't care, they're doing illegal things already. A clinic, like Planned Parenthood, is expected to report such abuse, and do what the mother wants, not what some pimp/sexual abuser/jerk lover wants.
You are ignorant. Pregnant women and girls are often pressured into getting abortions by their mothers, boyfriends, or rapists. Planned Parenthood could care less. They even support China's forced-abortion policies.

When underage girls call Planned Parenthood and tells them that their twenty- or thirty-something "boyfriend" got them pregnant, they are cautioned not to give their names over the phone, and not to mention their boyfriend's age when they come in, so that they won't have to report it and he won't "get in trouble." Were you aware of this?
 
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