You twist and pervert God's word. It does not say, "God has reconciled the world of his elect". You will mot escape his judgment.
"And You Are Complete in Jesus Christ" Colossians 2:10.
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You twist and pervert God's word. It does not say, "God has reconciled the world of his elect". You will mot escape his judgment.
Nanja
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Nanja
I see your frustration in this matter, but frankly you are one who is prevented from comprehending the scriptural Truth Eph. 4:18 that there are two worlds [kosmos] https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G2889&t=KJV of people on the earth that the scriptures speak of:
A Reconciled World: The Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23; 5:19.
AND...
A Condemned World: Vessels of Wrath Rom. 9:22; fitted to destruction / God's Wrath;
those whom God has determined that they should not escape destruction.
Mat. 23:32-33
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Rom. 9:18
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Job 23:13-14
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.
Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
I see your frustration in this matter, but frankly you are one who is prevented from comprehending the scriptural Truth Eph. 4:18 that there are two worlds [kosmos] https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G2889&t=KJV of people on the earth that the scriptures speak of:
A Reconciled World: The Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23; 5:19.
AND...
A Condemned World: Vessels of Wrath Rom. 9:22; fitted to destruction / God's Wrath;
those whom God has determined that they should not escape destruction.
Mat. 23:32-33
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Rom. 9:18
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Job 23:13-14
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.
Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith as taught by the apostle Paul. In the judgment you will be without an excuse.
Nanja
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More lies!
You are in direct opposition to the Truth of the Word of God.
Woe unto you!
The devil has you in a trance. There is not one scripture in the whole Bible about anyone being predestinated to heaven or to hell. If the Calvinist doctrine were true the Bible would be full of it, THERE IS NOTHING. Yet you believe that there is.
Nanja
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No matter how many times you have been shown the Truth in God's Word, you persist in repeating the same nonsense over and over and ...
The Gospel of Grace according to the Power of God by His Election of Christ's Church In Union with Him Eph. 1:4-7; 2 Tim. 1:8-9 can't be discerned by anyone who is in spiritual darkness, at enmity with God. That's why New Birth, being Born of the Spirit, is a necessity before Faith Gal. 5:22 comes in the Gospel of Christ Rom. 1:16-17.
1 Cor. 2:10-11, 14
10 But God hath revealed them unto us [Saints] by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
14 But the natural man [You] receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
You are the natural person. You hear but you cannot understand.
"God has ALREADY reconciled us and the world unto himself by Jesus Christ" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
So that now we can say that "We are complete in Jesus" Colossians 2:10.
You have not entered into his rest, Hebrews 4:10.
Nanja believes that she is Christian because she quotes scripture. Quoting scripture does not make someone a Christian. All of the cults quote scripture. What makes one a Christian is their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Nanja never writes articles about Jesus or how Jesus has saved us.
What she writes about is Calvinism. John Calvin is her Jesus.
Nanja never writes articles about Jesus or how Jesus has saved us.
What she writes about is Calvinism. John Calvin is her Jesus.
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"And You Are Complete In Him" Colossians 2:10
"And You Are Complete In Him" Colossians 2:10
Here is the crux of the Gospel. We are MADE complete in him. We do not BECOME complete in him by our works or by our religion. Having been MADE complete in him we can now enter into his rest, Hebrews 4:10.
"For as by one man's disobedience (Adam) many were MADE sinners, so by the obedience of one (Jesus Christ) shall many be MADE righteous" Romans 5:19.
Jesus was obedient, even unto his death on the cross, Philippians 2:8. He was also obedient unto the law. He fulfilled every jot and tittle of the law, Matthew 5:18. All that Jesus did and all that Jesus was, was for our justification and our salvation. This is why "We are complete in him" Colossians 2:10.
Religion is man's attempt to do in his flesh through good works, obedience, or his religion what God has ALREADY done in his Son Jesus Christ. We cannot make ourselves any better or any holier than what God has ALREADY MADE us in his Son Jesus Christ. "We are complete in him".
All of the Satanic powers have been defeated by Jesus Christ. God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been defeated.
"And having spoiled principalities and powers, he (Jesus Christ) made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it" Colossians 2:15.
The resounding message of the New Testament is that "Jesus is Lord". He is Lord because he has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven at the right hand of God as... "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16.
Christ's victory is our victory, because our humanity was constituted in him.
We have been baptized into Christ, Galatians 3:27.
In Jesus Christ the law has been fulfilled and abolished, Matthew 5:18, Ephesians 2:15.
We have been crucified with Christ, Romans 6:6.
We have been resurrected with Christ, Romans 6:5.
We have been MADE to sit in heavenly places "In Christ" Ephesians 2:6.
We have ALREADY been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
We have been justified, sanctified and redeemed by Christ, 1 Corinthians 1:30.
Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus, we can now stand before God in the judgment as perfect and complete "In Christ".
"God can find no sin in the man that confesses with his mouth the Lord Jesus Christ and believes in his heart that God has raised him from the dead" Romans 10:9.
"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" Romans 10:4. Christ is also the end of Calvinism, Catholicism, Judaism and all religions that hold the truth in unrighteousness.
"And You Are Complete In Him" Colossians 2:10
Here is the crux of the Gospel. We are MADE complete in him. We do not BECOME complete in him by our works or by our religion. Having been MADE complete in him we can now enter into his rest, Hebrews 4:10.
"For as by one man's disobedience (Adam) many were MADE sinners, so by the obedience of one (Jesus Christ) shall many be MADE righteous" Romans 5:19.
Jesus was obedient, even unto his death on the cross, Philippians 2:8. He was also obedient unto the law. He fulfilled every jot and tittle of the law, Matthew 5:18. All that Jesus did and all that Jesus was, was for our justification and our salvation. This is why "We are complete in him" Colossians 2:10.
Religion is man's attempt to do in his flesh through good works, obedience, or his religion what God has ALREADY done in his Son Jesus Christ. We cannot make ourselves any better or any holier than what God has ALREADY MADE us in his Son Jesus Christ. "We are complete in him".
All of the Satanic powers have been defeated by Jesus Christ. God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been defeated.
"And having spoiled principalities and powers, he (Jesus Christ) made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it" Colossians 2:15.
The resounding message of the New Testament is that "Jesus is Lord". He is Lord because he has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and now sits in heaven at the right hand of God as... "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16.
Christ's victory is our victory, because our humanity was constituted in him.
We have been baptized into Christ, Galatians 3:27.
In Jesus Christ the law has been fulfilled and abolished, Matthew 5:18, Ephesians 2:15.
We have been crucified with Christ, Romans 6:6.
We have been resurrected with Christ, Romans 6:5.
We have been MADE to sit in heavenly places "In Christ" Ephesians 2:6.
We have ALREADY been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
We have been justified, sanctified and redeemed by Christ, 1 Corinthians 1:30.
Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus, we can now stand before God in the judgment as perfect and complete "In Christ".
"God can find no sin in the man that confesses with his mouth the Lord Jesus Christ and believes in his heart that God has raised him from the dead" Romans 10:9.
"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" Romans 10:4. Christ is also the end of Calvinism, Catholicism, Judaism and all religions that hold the truth in unrighteousness.
fishrovmen
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What is the purpose of salvation?
God is just, merciful and righteous and is not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter 3:9.
He has done all that he can do to save us. But he will not believe for us, that is something that we have to do.
You brought it up, now you need to read it and comment on it.
Do you know the purpose of salvation?
The word "salvation" means that we have been delivered from something. In this case it means that we have been delivered from the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law, 1 John 3:4. Since all have sinned, Romans 3:10. All stand before God as guilty, Romans 3:19. The purpose of salvation is to deliver us from the law. Where there is no law there is no sin or judgment, Romans 7:6. This is why the law has been abolished for the Christian, Ephesians 2:15.
The law is simply a mirror that shows us things we need to correct.
That's why we use mirrors, to see how we look.
Without law you don't know how you look to God.
The law shows us that we are sinners and need a savior. It is our schoolmaster that brings us to Christ, Galatians 3:24.
But after faith is come we no longer need the law, Galatians 3:25.
This is why Paul wrote, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" Romans 1:17.
The Mosaic law is not applicable today and is not our schoolmaster.
That law ended 70 CE after Paul was dead.
There is another law that applies to us.