Preaching the Gospel !

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Nanja

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Even though the proud natural man can't accept the fact that the Gospel is hidden from them that are lost as per 2 Cor 4:3-4 so they can't believe, the Gospel is to them a Mystery. Those who say that the natural unregenerated man , without the Spirit of God in them, can believe the Gospel, they do lie! The Gospel of Christ is a Mystery. Here's some scripture to that fact. Paul writing to the Ephesians writes Ephesians 6:19
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

The Gospel here uses the definite article, so Paul is speaking of the one definite Gospel that he preached see Gal 1:8-9 !
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Amen Brother, it is God's Purpose that The Mystery of the Gospel be deliberately hidden from the non-elect because they have been prepared for destruction, not salvation. So they preach a false gospel of the works of man: a Freewill Gospel. Thus they are accursed Gal. 1:8-9

The Gospel of God's Grace testifies that from everlasting, His Eternal Grace was given to all the Elect chosen In Union with Christ Eph. 1:4-7, their Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22, to have forgiveness of sins before the world began.

2 Tim. 1:8-9
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began
 
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The Gospel of Christ is a Spiritual message and it can't be received and understood by the natural man. 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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beloved57 said:
The Gospel of Christ is a Spiritual message and it can't be received and understood by the natural man. 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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Amen Brother, because by nature, one who has not been Born again, or Born of God has a wicked heart Jer. 17:9, and a darkened understanding, and is void of His Spirit: Spiritually dead! So it's impossible for them to hear or comprehend the Gospel which are God's Living Words Heb. 4:12.

Eph. 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


And they will remain in that condition, unless they are one for whom Christ died, and was given Purpose and Grace In Him before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9, whereby they shall be given John 3:27 a new heart / mind Ezek. 36:26-27 in New Birth.

Eph. 2:1, 5
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
 
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Nanja said:
Amen Brother, because by nature, one who has not been Born again, or Born of God has a wicked heart Jer. 17:9, and a darkened understanding, and is void of His Spirit: Spiritually dead! So it's impossible for them to hear or comprehend the Gospel which are God's Living Words Heb. 4:12.

Eph. 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


And they will remain in that condition, unless they are one for whom Christ died, and was given Purpose and Grace In Him before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9, whereby they shall be given John 3:27 a new heart / mind Ezek. 36:26-27 in New Birth.

Eph. 2:1, 5
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
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Amen Sister! :)

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What is the righteousness revealed in the Gospel?
Rom 1:16-17

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

It's that imputed righteousness of God laid to the account of all for whom Christ was made sin for 2 Cor 5:21

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him, all for whom who sins are forgiven Rom 4:6-8
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

This righteousness is made known to God given Faith, a fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22, and it has justified all them to whom it's revealed;
 
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What is the righteousness revealed in the Gospel?2

Now also this imputed righteousness revealed does denote unto all for whom Christ was made a Surety,that for them God's Law has been honored, His Justice against their sins satisfied, and His Elect Justified from all sin and Condemnation!
 
Nanja

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beloved57 said:
What is the righteousness revealed in the Gospel?2

Now also this imputed righteousness revealed does denote unto all for whom Christ was made a Surety,that for them God's Law has been honored, His Justice against their sins satisfied, and His Elect Justified from all sin and Condemnation!
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What an amazing Gospel Truth, that all Christ's Sheep He was Surety for, that they were imputed with His Righteousness and their sins imputed to Him from everlasting, without them having to do anything at all! And it's experientially revealed to each one individually in time, when they're given new birth; born again of the Spirit and given Faith.
 
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What an amazing Gospel Truth, that all Christ's Sheep He was Surety for, that they were imputed with His Righteousness and their sins imputed to Him from everlasting, without them having to do anything at all! And it's experientially revealed to each one individually in time, when they're given new birth; born again of the Spirit and given Faith.
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The gospel is Jesus saying believe and obey.

The Calvinists' gospel is, "No, we cannot, save us first."
 
Nanja

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God's Truth said:
The gospel is Jesus saying believe and obey.
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Wrong! That's a false gospel of works a person does to make himself right with God.

But Salvation is by Grace, not of works Eph. 2:8-9.


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The Calvinists' gospel is, "No, we cannot, save us first."
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According to Paul's Gospel Christ already has!

2 Tim. 1:8-9

8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,



The Good News is that for all whom Christ died, His Sheep John 10:11, 15, or His Church Eph. 5:25, all the sins they would ever commit in time were imputed to Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22 from Everlasting, and His Righteousness was imputed to them.

Is. 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

2 Cor. 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


That's total forgiveness of sins for God's Elect. They were always in a permanent state of being legally Justified in God's sight! Rom. 4:25; Heb. 13:20

And that's why each one of them shall be Born of the Spirit and given Faith Gal. 5:22, for God has chosen them in Christ, before the foundation, to be holy and without blame before Him in love Eph. 1:4. His Death for them has made them Righteous, and they shall be born again in time to be shown to be Righteous!

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


So you see? Those Christ died for are made Righteous by His Act of Obedience, not theirs, and thus they keep His Commandments John 14:15!
 
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Nanja said:
Wrong! That's a false gospel of works a person does to make himself right with God.
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It is NEVER EVER wrong to believe and obey.

Nanja said:
But Salvation is by Grace, not of works Eph. 2:8-9.
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Not of works are about the CEREMONIAL/PURIFICATION works.

Paul is NOT saying we are saved by NOT obeying! That is ludicrous.

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According to Paul's Gospel Christ already has!

2 Tim. 1:8-9

8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
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Jesus obeyed means we have someone to obey.

Nanja said:
The Good News is that for all whom Christ died, His Sheep John 10:11, 15, or His Church Eph. 5:25, all the sins they would ever commit in time were imputed to Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22 from Everlasting, and His Righteousness was imputed to them.
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They have to do something, they have to repent.

Nanja said:
So you see? Those Christ died for are made Righteous by His Act of Obedience, not theirs, and thus they keep His Commandments John 14:15!
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NO ONE ENTERS that grace unless they do what Jesus says! Repent or perish.
 
Nanja

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It is NEVER EVER wrong to believe and obey.



Not of works are about the CEREMONIAL/PURIFICATION works.

Paul is NOT saying we are saved by NOT obeying! That is ludicrous.



Jesus obeyed means we have someone to obey.


They have to do something, they have to repent.



NO ONE ENTERS that grace unless they do what Jesus says! Repent or perish.
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One doesn't "enter" Grace.

But Grace was given to those who were saved and called according to God's Purpose before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!

By Christ's Obedience for all those chosen in Him Eph. 1:4, He obeyed God's law perfectly on their behalf!

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
 
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Nanja said:
One doesn't "enter" Grace.
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That is not what God says, it is not what you say.

Luke 18:25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

John 10:1 [ The Good Shepherd and His Sheep ] “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

Acts 14:22 strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. “We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.

Hebrews 4:5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”

Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Nanja said:
But Grace was given to those who were saved and called according to God's Purpose before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!
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That is about the plan.

Nanja said:
By Christ's Obedience for all those chosen in Him Eph. 1:4, He obeyed God's law perfectly on their behalf!

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
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Since Jesus obeyed we have someone to obey.

We do not have access to God's grace unless you have faith first, and that is living faith, not dead faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
 
Nanja

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Since Jesus obeyed we have someone to obey.

We do not have access to God's grace unless you have faith first, and that is living faith, not dead faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
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The only faith that pleases God is a fruit of the Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22.

So before a person is born again, no works he does pleases God anyways Rom. 8:8.
 
beloved57

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That is not what God says, it is not what you say.

Luke 18:25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

John 10:1 [ The Good Shepherd and His Sheep ] “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

Acts 14:22 strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. “We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.

Hebrews 4:5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”

Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.



That is about the plan.



Since Jesus obeyed we have someone to obey.

We do not have access to God's grace unless you have faith first, and that is living faith, not dead faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
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False teaching. Because my Jesus obeyed, He made me and many others Righteous! Rom 5:19
 
Nanja

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God gives all a measure of faith.
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Only every Elect man Born of the Spirit and who Believed 1 Cor. 3:5, because Faith is a fruit of the Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22.

But not to the wicked, or non-elect:

2 Thes. 3:2
And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
 
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Only every Elect man Born of the Spirit and who Believed 1 Cor. 3:5, because Faith is a fruit of the Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22.

But not to the wicked, or non-elect:

2 Thes. 3:2
And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
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NO! God gives ALL a measure of faith. God takes away from the one who does not do right with the faith that He gave, and He increases the faith of those who do right with it.
 
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NO! God gives ALL a measure of faith. God takes away from the one who does not do right with the faith that He gave, and He increases the faith of those who do right with it.
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That not what those scriptures say. Read them again, slowly.

Only every Elect man Born of the Spirit and who Believed 1 Cor. 3:5, because Faith is a fruit of the Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22.

But not to the wicked, or non-elect:

2 Thes. 3:2
And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
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