Trump Has A Mandate
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ok doser
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It was meant to be a supplemental income. Will I take advantage of SS benefits if they're around when I retire? That's quite a few years down the road.
Back to you Trump lemmings bad mouthing everything that democrats do but take advantage of their programs:
Tell us how you get free! free! free! schooling ok doser (and without a doubt food stamps, government housing, etc. etc. etc.).
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drbrumley
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No. No other insurance company threatens you with jail or other form of punishment if you don't pay your discretionary "fair share."
(Note how the Trump lemming has graduated from "hush moron").
Tell us about all of the government programs that you're on ok doser. (I hear tell that you leeches off of society even have someone come in to ....oh, never mind).
Libertarian for life Ron Paul says that he puts more into Social Security than he collects (he collects it even though it's unconstitutional).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/ron-paul-social-security_n_1612117.html
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That's the excuse, but it isn't the reason.
Arthur Brain
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Peter is believed to have been the eldest of the Disciples, and his death around 68AD. John was the only one who did not die in persecution, and lived to old age as a bishop.
You deny that the wage gap is a myth, despite sources and that they conflate wages with earnings. Similar recipes follows with the myriad of their other claims- they take information and dress it up to make it seem as if they are oppressed.
Feminism is just a mass of platitudes that have dragged through the crown of the Earth, now they just need to sink into the molten rock and be gone. Men shouldn't have to be scrutinized and treated as second rate on account of their lies.
I'm sure you believe a person shouldn't have a right to free speech.
Well, white conservative men anyway. Everyone else has been acting like bigots for the past decade, your media spits venom on conservatives by trade.
I'm not and was never confused on the point. You have me mistaken with, well, you:
I don't believe you've ever brought that up with me.
Errant foundation to worse conclusion.
I'm cutting the legs off that, chief. It's a waste of my time. You've met your unsupported declaration limit.
That's about as funny as your white man as victim in our society trope.
That's because your powers of recollection are a match for your reading comprehension, sadly. I've never argued against free speech. I've argued against the right to discriminate. Coming from a philosophy that gave us money as speech, I'm unsurprised by your confusion on the point.
Hey, you managed to squeeze that one in anyway. Son of a gun.
I don't own any media and the largest, most popular network on the planet is the de facto media wing for right wing conservatism and has been for a very long time. As for acting like or being bigoted, it's a case by case...and you've made the one against you a strong indictment.
And the House and Senate address that concern. The president isn't a regional candidate followed by regional bias. Hillary wasn't from California or promoting a particular regional interest against.
One or two don't and wouldn't. It took and will always take more. But you were fine with a majority within those artificial lines determining the outcome. Look, the only difference between the EC and a straight up popular vote is that the EC draws up the majorities in a way that makes property more important than individuals and empowers people who live on the farm more than people who sell their products in the city.
The nation is largely viewing it through a political lens tainted with personal interest. The right needs it and so won't agree. The left has had it cost them two elections and so they're unhappy. Were roles reversed I have no doubt the right would be championing the "will of the unsilent majority" and the left would be "standing up for the little guy". Nuts to both. My argument and observation isn't meant to serve either, but to align the vote with the principle in play at law and to remove an inarguable inequality in the exercise of right.
I've read Madison. But that's one voice.
Look, I typed up this long bit, but the truth is that I don't need it. The truth is this Madison/mistrust of pure democracy, etc. comes to nothing. Why do I say that? Because the fact remains that the EC isn't a place where people stand up and use a power to thwart socialism. It's a process that has for all but a handful of instances put a rubber stamp of approval on the popular vote.
It isn't protecting anyone. It gave us Obama twice for Pete's sake. It's a little toe that is mostly good for stubbing and causing a bit of cursing and hopping about by the majority from time to rare time. But that rarity remains dangerous, because it speaks to the inequality of power that is contrary to the nation's guiding principles, necessary as it was when our nation was struggling to find a sense of itself. It tells the majority to disrespect the process and institutions. And even a little of that is bad for the rest.
The only negative thing I've noted about the Founders is found in the things they got horribly wrong, like slavery. Jefferson, for all his flaws and hypocrisy, was a leading intellectual light of his day and much of what he trained it on was better for it.
Supra and for a very practical reason, as regards the EC. It was a fear of a regionalism that would strangle the infant, fragile union in its first crying breaths. A regionalism in play because of geography and the settling of regions by peoples with similar beliefs and singular competing interests. Without the EC, we'd have pulled ourselves into north, south and west in short order.
No, not regional. There's blue in just about every state...except Oklahoma, at a glance. That's one red state.
That's compelling for likened minds, I suspect, but to me you're indistinguishable from the angry Amish guy who'd call you a flamboyant war monger and wonder why he has to pay the freight for sin, except he has not smaller version of the EC as an escape clause.
Maybe you should stop trying to put a singular, distorted face on a people much less likely to be uniform in their beliefs that the party that casts out their own moderates as RINOs.
I've given you a lot more than declaration. But I can run a river to your door. I can't make you wade into it.
That's the idea.
To my mind that simply underscores my point about the fading of that fledgling concern and the slow investment in founding principles of equality and empowerment. The unfortunate thing is that it halted there...but given how the EC performed, again, I suppose it wasn't much of an imposition.
A thing designed to grow with its people isn't being perverted by its own process.
So, the writer of Revelation became a Bishop? Did you learn that from your Priest or from secular history? How about some Scripture to back up what you say?
Are you just making that up? I wouldn't doubt it. I see your heart is still full of hatred. What a guy.
I've participated on TOL since 2011 and I have to admit, you're one of the most disgusting posters I've come across.
I both, prayed for Trump to win and voted for him as well. I continue to pray for him and his family. Are you still weeping over Hillary's wonderful loss? Thank God that evil woman lost the Presidency. She was basically a "Jezebel Type." Trump is the right man at the right time in history. I hear tell they have a sale on Kleenex, ACW. You may want to take advantage and stock up. You'll be weeping a lot for the next four years. :rotfl:
As for me, I'm absolutely giddy about Trump's Presidency.
Choices for Liberal Democrats for President in 2020:
1) Hillary (Again)
2) Chelsea Clinton
3) Harry Reid
4) Nancy Pelosi
5) John Kerry (Again)
6) Al Capone (Oh, I forgot, he's dead.)
7) Howard Dean (Again)
8) Bill Clinton (Write-in)
9) Rosie O'Donnell
10)Oprah Winfrey
Just to suggest a few.
1) Hillary (Again)
2) Chelsea Clinton
3) Harry Reid
4) Nancy Pelosi
5) John Kerry (Again)
6) Al Capone (Oh, I forgot, he's dead.)
7) Howard Dean (Again)
8) Bill Clinton (Write-in)
9) Rosie O'Donnell
10)Oprah Winfrey
Just to suggest a few.
Every time that you look at my avatar I bet you just squeeeeel with glee don't cha Grosnick?
I'm amazed at how many TOL Trumpeteers are on the public dime (you, ok doser, Patrick jane, etc.). With all of that praying that you're doing for Donald Trump, you better pray that he doesn't cut back your welfare benefits or you'll all be out in the cold.
I'm retired. You sure like to make unsubstantiated accusations. In other words, lies!
I do reserve some empathy for ACWs "Hillary loss." I hope he recovers soon.
John took care of Mary before the persecutions by Domitian, which he survived and was then exiled to Patmos where he became a bishop. He was already the leader of the church at Ephesus so his status as a bishop was already attained.
Christian history, bro. Learn some :wave2:
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