ARCHIVE: The Apostle Pauls affirms that a Christian can sin.
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But see, I contend that what many Christians believe do give them a license to sin. For example, a Christian belives they can sin but they also believe all their sins (past, present, future) are covered/forgiven by Christ's sacrifice. Wouldn't the logical conclusion be that they can sin all the day long and it's ok because of what Christ did?? How is that not a license to sin?? :idunno:Sozo said:
Sozo
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No, my friend. Salvation is life. We are made holy, righteous, blameless, complete, perfect, when we receive His life. As a new creation, we have been given EVERYTHING pertaining to life and godliness. As He is, so also are we in this world. The body is dead, because of sin, but the spirit is alive, because of righteousness.jrnewma1 said:
Got to watch the game now! I'll check back in at commercials.
Newman
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Scripture:kmoney said:
Galatians 5:13-18 (TNIV)
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
I thought this might apply here.
Newman
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I think that it could satisfy both you and Sozo. It says that all Christians actually do have a license to sin, but because all Christians are in the Spirit, they won't just go around whatever they want to do.kmoney said:
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the only difference between you and Sozo is that you call the subject in question "sin", and Sozo calls it "pre-forgiven mis-deeds" (correct me if I am wrong Sozo, please).
elected4ever
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There is no unforgiven sin. All sins have been covered by the blood of Christ. It is not that we are sinners it is that we are dead. All men born in Adam are dead because of Adam's sin. All men do not commit the same sin that Adam did but all men are as dead as Adam and commit there own sin. All sin committed by Every man is paid for by Christ and life is offered to every man that believes.
Having all sins covered and paid for does not prevent man from acting in his deadness. The Law was added so that man could see his sin (deeds done in the deadness that man is). The Law did its work and the administration of law, dispensation of law, came to an end at the Resurrection of Christ. We are now in the Administration of Grace, Dispensation of Grace, sense the Resurrection of Christ Jesus. No one was ever saved by law and no one will ever be saved by law.
If you believe that all sins, yours included, are covered by the blood of Jesus and Jesus has risen to give new life then you will be saved. You can believe that your sins are forgiven but it is not the forgiveness of sins that saves. It is believing in the resurrected Christ.
Having all sins covered and paid for does not prevent man from acting in his deadness. The Law was added so that man could see his sin (deeds done in the deadness that man is). The Law did its work and the administration of law, dispensation of law, came to an end at the Resurrection of Christ. We are now in the Administration of Grace, Dispensation of Grace, sense the Resurrection of Christ Jesus. No one was ever saved by law and no one will ever be saved by law.
If you believe that all sins, yours included, are covered by the blood of Jesus and Jesus has risen to give new life then you will be saved. You can believe that your sins are forgiven but it is not the forgiveness of sins that saves. It is believing in the resurrected Christ.
Newman
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yeah, sorry. my badSozo said:
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What I'm trying to say is that (based on scripture in Galatians) you and kmoney were just calling the same action different names; kmoney calls it "sin" and you call it "things that Christians do that are according to the law, which is unnecessary because Christians are free from the law".
I think that's what I'm trying to say.