How dreadful!
You deserve this!
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How dreadful!
Thanks! I love my friends here!
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
hey!
an on-topic post! :noway:
i was considering this yesterday
elo wants to use a definition of "deserve" that implies "justness"
i would ask the following:
Is God's will just?
I would say yes.
Is it God's will that I be saved?
I would say yes.
Do I deserve God's justice?
I would say yes.
theophilus
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God is Just, the Justifier and the Righteous Judge.
I deserve Hell.
He grants me grace and has paid the penalty for my sin through Jesus Christ.
So the penalty for my sin, death and Hell, has been paid for by a Sinless Substitute Who clothes me with His own Righteousness. That Substitute is Jesus Christ.
Amazing!
To Him I give my life, my all.
It truly is ... the guy has now stolen my purple dinosaur and I am fairly certain he plans to paint him turquoise.
I suppose it's all for the best. My dino's name was Hubert ... and in reality I hated him ... because of his gender.
Not conforming to the conduct of ethics that traditionally are expected of a wife for a happy and sustainable household; a bad wife.
Children who grow up with single mothers tend to become products of the criminal system. They largely compose the majority of school drop outs.
If a man works 60 hours a week of labor just to come home to a deranged wife, it's an insult in and of itself to sit there and try to say that he would be wrong for pushing her irate self out of his face.
Forget walking away, how about the woman walk? And the whole 'arson' thing- that's just making a crime out of a misstatement due to anger. It's his own house.
You pretty much just perpetuate the issue with all that- how about women taking some accountability and leaving the man alone? A man can beat the snot out of a woman, this is fact- God didn't make men frail. So why is a woman going to cast misery on him and act like a lunatic? There's a reason why this is a new development..
And their *joint* kids, but you see how far that goes..
'Inquiring minds want to know'- spoken like a true biased woman. Never heard a man make that statement.
Use your imagination. It happened, I'm not going to debate it.
:rotfl:
On planet Rusha, maybe.
elohiym
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Here you admit that my wife (1PM) and I were not involved in a conspiracy with you to register and operate a TOL member account in violation of the forum rules. Take note, false accusers.
Your statement is riddled with evidence of your cognitive dissonance. It boils down an irrational rant about why you didn't deserve to be banned.
Make up your minds. You either deserved it or you did not. Obviously these discussions about the word deserve haven't benefited you one iota.
Boast away how you'd do it again while you blame other people for you behavior that got you banned. :yawn:
You don't get it because you are too self-absorbed. My wife and I were being falsely accused of conspiring with you to do something we didn't do, a person was hurting herself by making a false accusation, another person was engaging in malicious gossip over the false accusation. A person named BOLCATS has been accused of being you, and he was perma-banned because of your infamous participation on TOL. You think those are trivial matters?
No harm to BOLCATS' ban, if he wasn't you?
Why don't you try to clear his name if he wasn't you? :think:
If you were BOLCATS, why did you lie to my wife and I about it and let people falsely accuse us and abuse us to protect that lie?
If it was true I had such a habit then you are quite the moron for having shared all the personal details you did. It's as if you knew I didn't have such a habit then but are only making up the idea now to try and disparage me. In reality, only once in the past did I share a PM from Meshak because she was making false accusations against my wife and I. You defended that action along with some other people. Sure, some people felt it was unethical and I disagreed with them.
Do you really think BOLCATS would object to me sharing his PM with my wife if it would vindicate him and lift his perma-ban? Of course not. It's not a sin or unethical to do that.
Since you admitted to what I claimed was in our email exchange, there is no reason for me to share it at this point.
Ugh, you've become such a flaming legalist. It's not only lawful to do what I did, it was expedient and is leading to the vindication of innocent people.
Were you BOLCATS? Yes or no?
elohiym
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By your definition of deserve, do you deserve God's grace? Yes or no?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
opcorn:
I live in the Bible Belt. Right near the edge, but in it nonetheless.
And it's a pretty universal concept here that nobody deserves God's grace. His grace is a gift, and gifts aren't earned by merit, they are out of compassion or love.
We don't do the work based Catholic thing around these parts.
Yo, new guy, since I already know the rest of your post is pure garbage, I will just address what is in quotes.
What should be the expectations for a husband?
elohiym
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Do I really have to explain the point of my question to you? :AMR:
PureX
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I agree that gifts are not earned. But I disagree that no one "deserves grace". Because none of us has any way of knowing that, and none of us has the right to be making that judgment.
I'm on my forth cup of coffee, and this thread derailed into madness a long time ago. I'm just throwing things out there.
Elo, I really did believe that you both knew his identity. I apologize to both of you for the accusation.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
but if His gift is a manifestation of His will, and His will is just and our submission to His will is deserved, then don't we deserve His gift?
PureX
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Children who grow up poor are even more likely to becomes drop-outs and criminals, regardless of being single parented or not. So does that mean it's even more immoral for a parent to be poor than for them to be single?
1PeaceMaker
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You don't need to apologize given the circumstances of the situation but I accept it nonetheless as a thoughtful gesture.
We continue to puzzle over it, as we did towards the end of his BOLCATS membership. (no insult to BOL intended if it wasn't him.)
If it was him, he claimed to have different theology. I'm not over that, yet.
ClimateSanity
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Rusha. One of these days when I have time, I am going to take any of your posts in your angry attack mode and show how incredibly evil you are. James was right about the tongue being a small thing but able to set ablaze and destroy anyone in its path. You should have been a lawyer because of how you are able to take people's words and turn them around to mean something utterly foreign to the original meaning. You know every dirty trick in the book and people who are on the receiving end of your venom can clearly see you are totally filled with hate. It's almost as if a demon is in you speaking for you.
That said, I want to discuss the issue of supposedly how immoral it is to secretly come back in after a permaban at TOL.
The mods do not have time to read everything . They depend on what people say in reported posts. You do not want me or anyone who speaks out against feminism or makes declarations that are anathema to feminist orthodoxy to participate on this board. You use your verbal talents to twist what we say and avoid damning questions that could expose you for who you are. You know that Misrepresentation of what is said is infuriating and you keep pestering us until we respond. If we don't respond, you attack and twist everything hoping to get a response.
This isn't against TOL rules and that's why you do it with such careless abandon.
It is against that evil backdrop that I claim sneaking back in is not immoral. I know I am able to withstand your wicked attacks now and know when to leave when a flameout is coming. I know I am a very good contribution to TOL and most people who have dealt with me can confirm that.
To sum up: It isn't immoral to sneak in under a system that is not equipped to handle malicious abuse because there is no rule covering it. As long as I'm not behaving in the same manner I was reported for and banned, its a totally non issue.
The nazi reference was not exact. A more precise reference would be sneaking back under the management of mister Magoo.....blind as a bat.
No, I'm not calling knight and Sherman blind as a bat. They have to abide by the rules of their system. It's a system evil people such as yourself take advantage of and therefore I Have no shame in working around that very system.
That said, I want to discuss the issue of supposedly how immoral it is to secretly come back in after a permaban at TOL.
The mods do not have time to read everything . They depend on what people say in reported posts. You do not want me or anyone who speaks out against feminism or makes declarations that are anathema to feminist orthodoxy to participate on this board. You use your verbal talents to twist what we say and avoid damning questions that could expose you for who you are. You know that Misrepresentation of what is said is infuriating and you keep pestering us until we respond. If we don't respond, you attack and twist everything hoping to get a response.
This isn't against TOL rules and that's why you do it with such careless abandon.
It is against that evil backdrop that I claim sneaking back in is not immoral. I know I am able to withstand your wicked attacks now and know when to leave when a flameout is coming. I know I am a very good contribution to TOL and most people who have dealt with me can confirm that.
To sum up: It isn't immoral to sneak in under a system that is not equipped to handle malicious abuse because there is no rule covering it. As long as I'm not behaving in the same manner I was reported for and banned, its a totally non issue.
The nazi reference was not exact. A more precise reference would be sneaking back under the management of mister Magoo.....blind as a bat.
No, I'm not calling knight and Sherman blind as a bat. They have to abide by the rules of their system. It's a system evil people such as yourself take advantage of and therefore I Have no shame in working around that very system.
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