"Supreme Law Of The Land" - time for a change?

The Horn

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That's not what I meant , KTOYU . What I mean is that no one , certainly not the government, has the right to persecute gay people and deny them rights . They should just be left alone and not treated any
differently than heterosexuals .
 

ok doser

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That's not what I meant , KTOYU . What I mean is that no one , certainly not the government, has the right to persecute gay people and deny them rights . They should just be left alone and not treated any
differently than heterosexuals .

but they are different from heterosexuals

they're perverts

why should perverts expect their "rights" to perversion to be respected?
 

aCultureWarrior

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Here's a question for Rocketman who seems to know quite a bit about this movement promoting another Constitutional Convention:

What's to stop liberals from controlling the convention and amongst other things rewriting the 2nd Amendment to meet their evil agenda?
 

Jose Fly

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thanks a lot Hamilton and Madison, but you're long dead and your wonderful idea just doesn't work that well 200 years later when applied by judges who have turned their backs on God and spit on His Word.

So as the population becomes less and less Christian, you're expecting to hold a Constitutional convention and institute a Christian theocracy?

Har, har, har....:rotfl:
 

The Horn

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Judges have "turned their backs on God and spit on him ?"
You're presupposing that America is a Christian theocracy and that all laws must be in agreement with Christian views, which is absolutely not the case .
Judges are NOT supposed to let their religious views get in the way of their decisions, because this is a blatant violation of separation of church and state . Conservatives who think there is no such thing as separation of church and state are dead wrong . It's not in the constitution ? How about "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion ", and "There shall be no religious test for public office .?"
A judge who is hostile to gay rights based on his or her religious beliefs and is determined to deny gay people rights because of this has absolutely no business sitting on the bench .
And remember - not all judges are Christians . Nor should they be required to be Christian .
 

genuineoriginal

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Judges have "turned their backs on God and spit on him ?"
You're presupposing that America is a Christian theocracy
No. America is not a theocracy, nor is it a democracy, it is a representative republic and every state in the United States is mandated to have a republican form of government.
and that all laws must be in agreement with Christian views
Yes, even though the United States are not a Christian theocracy, the laws must be in agreement with Christian views.

, which is absolutely not the case .
You have been lied to by the anti-Christian idiots.

Judges are NOT supposed to let their religious views get in the way of their decisions
False.
Judges are supposed to be religious enough to have a moral basis for their decisions, not be irreligious and pass amoral decisions.
, because this is a blatant violation of separation of church and state . Conservatives who think there is no such thing as separation of church and state are dead wrong .
You have been lied to again.
There is no such thing as the separation of church and state that you are claiming.

It's not in the constitution ? How about "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion ",
This is clearly a restriction on the Federal Congress powers to make laws, and yet there is absolutely no restriction on any individual to prevent them from practicing their religion during the carrying out of their duties as a government employee or an elected official.

and "There shall be no religious test for public office .?"
The Federal offices shall not require any person to hold any particular religion or profess to any particular religious belief.
So what?
That clause does not restrict a person from practicing their religion while holding office.

A judge who is hostile to gay rights based on his or her religious beliefs and is determined to deny gay people rights because of this has absolutely no business sitting on the bench .
Judges that support the abomination of homosexuality have absolutely no business sitting on the bench and need to be impeached and removed as soon as possible.

And remember - not all judges are Christians . Nor should they be required to be Christian .
They may not be required to be Christian, but they should have morals and not legislate immorality from the bench.
 

ok doser

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No. America is not a theocracy, nor is it a democracy, it is a representative republic and every state in the United States is mandated to have a republican form of government.

Yes, even though the United States are not a Christian theocracy, the laws must be in agreement with Christian views.


You have been lied to by the anti-Christian idiots.


False.
Judges are supposed to be religious enough to have a moral basis for their decisions, not be irreligious and pass amoral decisions.

You have been lied to again.
There is no such thing as the separation of church and state that you are claiming.


This is clearly a restriction on the Federal Congress powers to make laws, and yet there is absolutely no restriction on any individual to prevent them from practicing their religion during the carrying out of their duties as a government employee or an elected official.


The Federal offices shall not require any person to hold any particular religion or profess to any particular religious belief.
So what?
That clause does not restrict a person from practicing their religion while holding office.


Judges that support the abomination of homosexuality have absolutely no business sitting on the bench and need to be impeached and removed as soon as possible.


They may not be required to be Christian, but they should have morals and not legislate immorality from the bench.



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Jose Fly

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Yes, even though the United States are not a Christian theocracy, the laws must be in agreement with Christian views.

Man, but the delusion is strong here. And I'll bet you guys can't figure out why this argument never wins in court (well, you probably chalk it up to some anti-Christian end times conspiracy, but that only further demonstrates my point).
 

genuineoriginal

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Man, but the delusion is strong here
It is those that have pleasure in unrighteousness (like homosexuality) that are under a delusion.


2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.​


Insisting on Christian views in government is part of exercising our religion (Christianity), just as your insistence on removing Christians views in government is you exercising your religion (Secular Humanism).

Whether your religion prevails or our religion prevails, we know what the outcome will be.

Proverbs 29:2
2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.​

 

The Horn

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My rights, or the rights of others , should not be based on YOUR interpretation of the parts of the Bible you choose to believe in .
If you want to live in a country where there is no separation of church and state ,move to Iran or Saudi Arabia .
 

genuineoriginal

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My rights, or the rights of others , should not be based on YOUR interpretation of the parts of the Bible you choose to believe in .
Your rights are not based on MY interpretation of the Bible.
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
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Your rights, just as my rights, come from our Creator, who just happens to be the God of the Bible.

Of course, if you deny the God of the Bible is your Creator, then you are denying that you have any inalienable rights and are claiming that you only have whatever rights your government grants you for whatever time those rights are granted.
 

TracerBullet

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Your rights are not based on MY interpretation of the Bible.
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
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Your rights, just as my rights, come from our Creator, who just happens to be the God of the Bible.

Of course, if you deny the God of the Bible is your Creator, then you are denying that you have any inalienable rights and are claiming that you only have whatever rights your government grants you for whatever time those rights are granted.

constitutional rights are based on the constitution...Your quote is not from the constitution
 
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