SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT

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No, they don't.

Barnabas was with the OTHER APOSTLES before Paul came along.

Barnabas and Paul were teamed up to preach the one and only gospel.

Barnabas and Paul were first to the Jews, and then they went to the Gentiles.

*Paul is on the road to Damascus; the Lord tells Ananias that he has plans for Paul to go the Gentles.
* Paul is saved, he spends several days with the disciples in Damascus, and he preaches in the synagogues.
*Paul has baffled the Jews in Damascus and they think Paul has come to take them as prisoners to the chief priests.
*Paul goes to Jerusalem and tries to join the disciples there, but they are afraid of him, but Barnabas took Paul to the apostles.
*Paul stays in Jerusalem with the disciples and debates the Jews but they tried to kill him, so the believers sent him to Tarsus; then the church in Judea, Galilee and Samaria enjoyed a time of peace.
*Peter has a vision from God about how not to call the Gentiles unclean when He makes them clean; Peter helps save the first Gentiles, Cornelius and his whole household. Those who had been scattered by the persecution that broke out when Stephen was killed traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, spreading the word only among Jews. Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus.
*Barnabas is sent by believers in Jerusalem to go to Antioch, they saw what the Lord did there. Then Barnabas goes to Tarsus to look for Paul, and brought him back to Antioch. So for a whole year Barbabas and Paul met with the believers and taught a great number of people. It is where they are first called Christians.
*Paul and Barnabas finish their mission in Antioch.
*Paul and Barnabas are sent on their way by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia and sailed from there to Cyprus. When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the Jewish synagogues. John was with them as their helper.
*Paul and his companions sailed from Paphos to Perga in Pamphylia, where John left them to return to Jerusalem.
*Paul and Barnabas from Perga they went on to Pisidian Antioch. On the Sabbath they entered the synagogue and sat down.
*Paul and Barnabas, after the reading from the Law and the Prophets, are asked by the leaders of the synagogue if they had something to say.
*Paul stands up and motioned with his hand and said addressed the Israelites, to Judaism, those who worship God.
*Paul begins to tell the Jews about God and His relationship with the people of Israel, and speaks of the history from Egypt to the desert, to the Judges, to the first king Saul, and about the promise to David about a blood relative to whom the promises would be fulfilled, the Savior Jesus.
*Paul explains about John the baptizer preaching repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel; and how John taught there is one coming after him whose sandals he is not worthy to untie.
*Paul goes on to say to the children of Abraham and to those among them who fear God, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.
*Paul explains that the people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning Jesus they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath.
*Paul explains how Jesus was crucified, raised from the dead and was preached about by the witnesses, those who traveled with Jesus from Galilee to Jerusalem.
*Paul explains that it is the good news what God promised.
*Paul explains that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed.
*Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue; the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath.
*On the next Sabbath, almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord.
*The Jews began to contradict what Paul was saying and heaped abuse on him.
*Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: “We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. 47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
“‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles,
that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.
 

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Barnabas was with the OTHER APOSTLES before Paul came along.

Barnabas and Paul were teamed up to preach the one and only gospel.

Barnabas and Paul were first to the Jews, and then they went to the Gentiles.
That was a lot of wild stuff. I've you'd like to have an intelligent discussion, I'd be glad to do that.

There are many gospels in scripture. If you'd like to discuss what they are, we can do that.

The scripture that you're quoting about "Jews first" has NOTHING to do with the dispensation of GRACE.

In the dispensation of GRACE... nobody is first due to their ethic ancestors.
In the dispensation of GRACE... there is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK.

If you'd like to learn what the Bible actually teaches, don't be afraid to ask.
 

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That was a lot of wild stuff. I've you'd like to have an intelligent discussion, I'd be glad to do that.
You remind me of some more jokes.

There are many gospels in scripture. If you'd like to discuss what they are, we can do that.
No such thing. The gospel is Jesus Christ.

The scripture that you're quoting about "Jews first" has NOTHING to do with the dispensation of GRACE.
Of course it does. Jesus came to the saved Jews first, and then we all get to be saved after Jesus was crucified.

He came for those who already belonged to God. They were God's and God gave them to Jesus, they had to go through Jesus to remain Gods.
In the dispensation of GRACE... nobody is first due to their ethic ancestors.
Jews first, and you should listen to Paul.
In the dispensation of GRACE... there is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK.
Jews first then Gentiles. All people have a chance after the Savior of God's people came to them.
If you'd like to learn what the Bible actually teaches, don't be afraid to ask.
Are your false beliefs something you would give up for God's Truth?
 

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You remind me of some more jokes.
Your insults to not affect me. I'm used to liars like you.

No such thing. The gospel is Jesus Christ.
Repeating falsehoods is no argument.

Of course it does. Jesus came to the saved Jews first, and then we all get to be saved after Jesus was crucified.
Jesus came to ISRAEL during His earthly ministry. THAT was during the time when the Jews were first.
In the dispensation of the grace of God... they are not first. There is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK.

That you cannot understand God's dispensations is a shame on you.

He came for those who already belonged to God. They were God's and God gave them to Jesus, they had to go through Jesus to remain Gods.
Jesus said that he came for the LOST sheep of the house of Israel, not just those that believed.

Why don't you believe scripture?

Jews first, and you should listen to Paul.
I do listen to Paul... you don't.

Jews first then Gentiles. All people have a chance after the Savior of God's people came to them.
You do not understand "the jew first...". No surprise there.

Are your false beliefs something you would give up for God's Truth?
I believe God's Truth... you do not.

You make up false stories... like "the Father came as a son". Heresy... pure simple.
 
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Romans 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Romans 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

It could not be stated enough, that our being justified unto eternal life, is a free gift of God. A free gift can not be taken back. A free gift is not earned. A free gift is given to us by the grace of God. Our righteousness is the imputed righteousness of Christ, bestowed unto us who believe (Romans 4:24).

The believing is the consequence and fruit of imputed righteousness !
 

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Your insults to not affect me. I'm used to liars like you.

You are the one full of insults.
As for the polak jokes that you remind me of, it is the truth, because you say the most stupidest stuff I have ever heard from someone trying to defend thier beliefs.

More truth than hypothetical narrative:

GT: We have to obey Jesus to get saved.
RD: Do you do everything?
GT: Yes, we are supposed to do everything.
RD: Did you bring Jesus a colt when he asked for one?


Repeating falsehoods is no argument.

What an ignorant statement you like to make REPEATEDLY.
 

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Jesus came to ISRAEL during His earthly ministry. THAT was during the time when the Jews were first.

The GOSPEL was given FIRST to the Jews BEFORE and AFTER the crucifixion. PAUL PROVES IT. I thought you said you listened to Paul. Paul curses you.

In the dispensation of the grace of God... they are not first. There is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK.
If you come to Jesus to be saved, you become neither Jew or Greek.
It also says that about male or female, and slave or free.

That you cannot understand God's dispensations is a shame on you.

That is a shame on you.

Jesus said that he came for the LOST sheep of the house of Israel, not just those that believed.

Jesus came ONLY for the house of Israel and only to those who BELIEVED. They already belonged to God by faith! Now they had to go through Jesus to remain God's.
 

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You are the one full of insults.
As for the polak jokes that you remind me of, it is the truth, because you say the most stupidest stuff I have ever heard from someone trying to defend thier beliefs.

More truth than hypothetical narrative:

GT: We have to obey Jesus to get saved.
RD: Do you do everything?
GT: Yes, we are supposed to do everything.
RD: Did you bring Jesus a colt when he asked for one?
You are not the perfectly obedient one. That's Jesus Christ.

You are self-deceived.

What an ignorant statement you like to make REPEATEDLY.
GT: "God the Father came as a son"
The BIBLE: "God sent His son".
 

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The GOSPEL was given FIRST to the Jews BEFORE and AFTER the crucifixion. PAUL PROVES IT. I thought you said you listened to Paul. Paul curses you.
Fairy tales... are not the TRUTH.

If you come to Jesus to be saved, you become neither Jew or Greek.
It also says that about male or female, and slave or free.
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That is a shame on you.
I believe the Bible as written.... you made up a story and cherry-pick the Bible to "make it come true".

Jesus came ONLY for the house of Israel and only to those who BELIEVED.
Deny the truth all that you want. The Bible disagrees with you.


Mat 15:24 KJV But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The LOST SHEEP are not "only those who believed". You have to be crazy to twist that one on its head, but you DO twist it on its head.

They already belonged to God by faith!
The LOST SHEEP were not faithful. That's why they need to be found.

Now they had to go through Jesus to remain God's.
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You are not the perfectly obedient one. That's Jesus Christ.
Jesus says to repent of your sins. Jesus never had a sin. You too special to understand that?
You are self-deceived.

How do you think you sound if not deceived when you say we aren't told to obey what Jesus says when he walked the earth?

That is beyond goofy that you think only Jews can obey what Jesus teaches.
(Laughing out loud.)
GT: "God the Father came as a son"
The BIBLE: "God sent His son".

Jesus is God. There is only one God and He is the Father. Jesus is God the Father come as a son.

Jesus is the one and only God come as a son and was sent.

You put your ignorant human limits on God. Even humans can do more than what you claim God did. Humans can clone animals and possibly themselves, yet you don't understand the one and only Father coming as a man.

God Almighty can do anything He wants, and He wanted to come as a man, and did.
 

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Fairy tales... are not the TRUTH.



I believe the Bible as written.... you made up a story and cherry-pick the Bible to "make it come true".


Deny the truth all that you want. The Bible disagrees with you.


Mat 15:24 KJV But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The LOST SHEEP are not "only those who believed". You have to be crazy to twist that one on its head, but you DO twist it on its head.


The LOST SHEEP were not faithful. That's why they need to be found.

They are SHEEP, you special person you.
 
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