What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

[7djengo7]

People cannot see God

You asserted that already, but you never proved it. You just disappeared and laid low for a little while and have now come back hoping everyone has meanwhile forgotten that you never proved it. Because even you know you have no hope of proving it. Because it's false and manifestly contradicted by the Scripture facts that

• people can see Jesus,
• Jesus is The Word,
• The Word is God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Logic is one part of the meaning, but logic that is not communicated is not applicable to someone who wants to learn. It is logic in the sense that logos does not emphasize the words used but the message behind the words. There are usually more than one way to communicate a particular message. For instance, "God will never leave you nor forsake you," can also be communicated by the words, "God will always be with you"

Same message but with different means of communicating the message.

Like wise with God's word. God has communicated himself to us in various ways, His creation, His written word, words given to angels and prophets to speak, and Jesus Christ, the word in the flesh.

Which reminds of the saying, I would rather see a sermon than hear one. Jesus Christ provided both, a sermon (a word, a message) they could hear and a sermon(a word, a message) they could see.

People cannot see God because God, being spirit, John 4:24, is invisible, I Timothy, so God provided His son who we could both see and hear. A son who always did the Father's will, thus we could learn about God from His son

You asserted that already, but you never proved it. You just disappeared and laid low for a little while and have now come back hoping everyone has meanwhile forgotten that you never proved it. Because even you know you have no hope of proving it. Because it's false and manifestly contradicted by the Scripture facts that

• people can see Jesus,
• Jesus is The Word,
• The Word is God.

@oatmeal I seem to recall showing you from multiple places in scripture where men saw God. You never addressed those challenges to your claim, that men "cannot see God." Here, have a look again:

There are many instances in the Bible where men saw God.

So list them.

Scripture says God is the invisible God.

Col 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

1Ti 1:17
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Heb 11:27
By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

Hebrews 11:27 does not say He literally saw the invisible God for seeing something or someone who is invisible would mean that the invisible would no longer be invisible. It was as if he saw the invisible God. We do that every time we read scripture that describes an attribute of God.

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Oh, and that list doesn't even include all the times people saw Jesus (because Jesus is God in the flesh).



The Bible often speaks in generalities, more often, I'd argue, than it does in absolutes.

For example, Psalms, Proverbs, and much of the Prophets are poetry and figures of speech, rather than woodenly literal statements.

I noticed that you haven't responded to what I said, Oatsy...

Is something preventing you from doing so?

Bump for @oatmeal:

Jesus is not God in the flesh. Jesus is the word in the flesh.

Big difference.

Word is the Greek word, logos, which means message.

Even as scripture is the message in written form, Jesus is the message in the flesh.

Please keep that straight

Saying it doesn't make it so.

God is the logos. Jesus is the logos. Therefore, Jesus is God.



No.

Logos means "logic" or "reason."

"Word" is a mistranslation.



When you can't even respond directly to something you yourself asked for, and then assert that which is false, expecting your opponent to just believe it because you said it, that makes you a fool.

The scripture is also the logos.

God's message is of course, logical and reasonable. However, logos means message

Please be patient with yourself. You can still learn if you become lowly and meek to learn

And that was the last time you referenced or mentioned any of my posts on the matter.

Try again.