ECT We were saved by God’s gift of grace (through faith, not by works)!

ZacharyB

Active member
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves;
it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)


When we first come to Christ …
we receive the gift of salvation by God’s grace through our faith,
and not by any good works that we have done.
(Believers debate whether God must provide the necessary faith.)

Obviously, our past good works have nothing to do with our salvation!

But, what about the future of believers?
Do our future good works (or lack thereof) have any effect on our salvation?

When we first came to Christ, we received His righteousness.
But, our righteousness must be maintained through our good works.

“I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it (good deeds) to one of the least of these,
you did not do it to Me. And these (the unrighteous) will go away into everlasting
punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Jesus, Matthew 25:45-46)


John follows Jesus:
“… you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.”
(1 John 2:29)
“… let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous”
(1 John 3:7)


Peter follows Jesus:
“… whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.” (Acts 10:35)
“… we, having died to sins, might live for (the practicing of) righteousness”
(1 Peter 2:24)


Paul follows Jesus:
“… (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness” (Romans 6:16)
“... present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness” (Romans 6:19)
“But you, O man of God, flee these things (sins) and pursue righteousness”
(1 Timothy 6:11)
“Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:8-10)


James follows Jesus:
“… faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” (James 2:17)

Do you follow Jesus?

A word about being an “overcomer”
Maintaining our righteous standing before God is part of being an “overcomer”.
Here, the overcomer is compared to whoever chooses to be a habitual unrepentant sinner:
“He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with
fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:7-8)

Jesus says: to overcome does not mean to just believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

“All Scripture… is profitable for … instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16)
 

DAN P

Well-known member
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves;
it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)


Hi and what translation did you use , because you are the first one I have seen to write it right !!

#1 , SAVED / SOZO is in the Greek Perfect Tense , Passive Voice and a Particple !!

#2 , The Perfect Tense means that when you are saved in the Past or Aorist Tense , you will Continually be saved as the Present tense says osas , that is the Perfect Tense .

#3 , The Greek Particple is the word HAVING !!

DAN P
 

DAN P

Well-known member
ZacharyB; [B said:
“I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it (good deeds) to one of the least of these,
you did not do it to Me. And these (the unrighteous) will go away into everlasting
punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Jesus, Matthew 25:45-46)[/B]

John follows Jesus:
“… you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.”
(1 John 2:29)
“… let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous”
(1 John 3:7)


Peter follows Jesus:
“… whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.” (Acts 10:35)
“… we, having died to sins, might live for (the practicing of) righteousness”
(1 Peter 2:24)


Paul follows Jesus:
“… (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness” (Romans 6:16)
“... present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness” (Romans 6:19)
“But you, O man of God, flee these things (sins) and pursue righteousness”
(1 Timothy 6:11)
“Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:8-10)


James follows Jesus:
“… faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” (James 2:17)

Do you follow Jesus?

A word about being an “overcomer”
Maintaining our righteous standing before God is part of being an “overcomer”.
Here, the overcomer is compared to whoever chooses to be a habitual unrepentant sinner:
“He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with
fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:7-8)


Hi and what does Rev 21:7-8 have to do with Eph 2:8 and 9 ??

dan p
 

ZacharyB

Active member
Hi and what does Rev 21:7-8 have to do with Eph 2:8 and 9 ??
Eph 2:8-9 ... past sins completely forgiven
Rev 21:8 ... later habitual unrepented-of sins not forgiven

Let's get this perfectly straight because it's very exciting:

Unsaved people are sent to Hell for doing Rev 21:8.
Saved people are sent to Heaven for doing Rev 21:8.

Yeah, that's it ... WOW, think I finally understand.
Thanks, Zach
 

DAN P

Well-known member
Eph 2:8-9 ... past sins completely forgiven
Rev 21:8 ... later habitual unrepented-of sins not forgiven

Let's get this perfectly straight because it's very exciting:

Unsaved people are sent to Hell for doing Rev 21:8.
Saved people are sent to Heaven for doing Rev 21:8.

Yeah, that's it ... WOW, think I finally understand.
Thanks, Zach


Hi and in John 19:30 , when Jesus dies on the cross , He said " IT IS FINISHED " is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , PASSIVE VOICE and Indicative Mood of A FACT , so you better believe it .

The Perfect Tense means Jesus can ONLY die once for SIN as the AORIST TENSE SAYS , and His blood CONTINUOUSLY saved all from his death on !!

So that means Jesus died for SINS , PAST , PRESENT and FUTURE SINS !!

DAN P
 

ZacharyB

Active member
Hi and in John 19:30 , when Jesus dies on the cross , He said " IT IS FINISHED " is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , PASSIVE VOICE and Indicative Mood of A FACT , so you better believe it .
Yes, Daniel, He surely did finish His great work, which He came to earth to accomplish!
He did indeed finish ALL of the many many things, which He came to accomplish.
Thanks for reminding us.
 
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