Interplanner
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Basic teachings of Mid Acts Dispensational right division
– Jesus, in his earthly ministry, ministered to the circumcision. (Rom 15:8, see here)
– [bold]The mystery of Christ was first revealed to Paul[/bold] (Col 1:25-26, 1 Tim 1:16, and here)
– Prophecy and mystery are different (Acts 3:19-21 vs Rom 16:25)
– Peter and Paul taught different messages (Peter prophecy, and Paul mystery: See here)
– Prophecy has been interrupted. (See here)
– The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of the grace of God (See here and here)
– Israel’s Church and the Church, the body of Christ, are different. (See here)
I'm not sure why D'ists don't accept the fact that they have a "interruption" doctrine. It is a huge part of D'ism. It is complicating of course. It doesn't sell.
Here at least there is an honest statement. D'ism has interrupted prophecy. The 490 years is interrupted. Mt 24's introduction is interrupted. I'm interrupted. Hebrews is interrupted. etc.
What they are trying to do is save 2P2P. They want the 2nd program (listed chronologically as Israel) to be fulfilled, to be realized. So anything that has to do with land, worship system, Israel, temple has to have another chance.
When they are reading Isaiah 55, that means God can't 'drop' Israel the state because He swore there to act the same as after the flood of Noah. Yet in addition to some very miserable circumstances in the Inter-Testament period, there is the cataclysm of the destruction of Jerusalem 4 decades after the Gospel, as warned about by Christ.
But this is not how the apostles were taught to see things in the seminar between the Res and Pentecost. Instead, they were taught to see things in Christ. OT prophets language hinges entirely on what has taken place in Christ. The truth in Christ has a power to it that affects the very meaning of the prophets as Rom 16 says; God has now brought out the meaning embedded there, but veiled by the 'kata sarka' way of reading the law.
Jn 12:34 is saying the same thing. The crowd is familiar with a messiah in one sense because of reading the law (actually, how it was read to them). But now the fulfillment has come and it is not what was expected. (Not referring here to the batch of items about the coming, although there is some overlap like Jn 12:15 / Zech 9:9). He says in 12:34+ that he is the light and they need to 'walk in the light.'
The fulfillment is not like the prophecy. It is not the literal sense. It is the sense that is true in Christ and in his mission. So it is not interrupted. D'ism of course is quite interrupted by this.
– Jesus, in his earthly ministry, ministered to the circumcision. (Rom 15:8, see here)
– [bold]The mystery of Christ was first revealed to Paul[/bold] (Col 1:25-26, 1 Tim 1:16, and here)
– Prophecy and mystery are different (Acts 3:19-21 vs Rom 16:25)
– Peter and Paul taught different messages (Peter prophecy, and Paul mystery: See here)
– Prophecy has been interrupted. (See here)
– The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of the grace of God (See here and here)
– Israel’s Church and the Church, the body of Christ, are different. (See here)
I'm not sure why D'ists don't accept the fact that they have a "interruption" doctrine. It is a huge part of D'ism. It is complicating of course. It doesn't sell.
Here at least there is an honest statement. D'ism has interrupted prophecy. The 490 years is interrupted. Mt 24's introduction is interrupted. I'm interrupted. Hebrews is interrupted. etc.
What they are trying to do is save 2P2P. They want the 2nd program (listed chronologically as Israel) to be fulfilled, to be realized. So anything that has to do with land, worship system, Israel, temple has to have another chance.
When they are reading Isaiah 55, that means God can't 'drop' Israel the state because He swore there to act the same as after the flood of Noah. Yet in addition to some very miserable circumstances in the Inter-Testament period, there is the cataclysm of the destruction of Jerusalem 4 decades after the Gospel, as warned about by Christ.
But this is not how the apostles were taught to see things in the seminar between the Res and Pentecost. Instead, they were taught to see things in Christ. OT prophets language hinges entirely on what has taken place in Christ. The truth in Christ has a power to it that affects the very meaning of the prophets as Rom 16 says; God has now brought out the meaning embedded there, but veiled by the 'kata sarka' way of reading the law.
Jn 12:34 is saying the same thing. The crowd is familiar with a messiah in one sense because of reading the law (actually, how it was read to them). But now the fulfillment has come and it is not what was expected. (Not referring here to the batch of items about the coming, although there is some overlap like Jn 12:15 / Zech 9:9). He says in 12:34+ that he is the light and they need to 'walk in the light.'
The fulfillment is not like the prophecy. It is not the literal sense. It is the sense that is true in Christ and in his mission. So it is not interrupted. D'ism of course is quite interrupted by this.
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