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Nathon Detroit

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The ghost responds to AMR's horrific post about babies being predestined to condemnation. Great post ghost!

From your link:

The Confession of Faith: A commentary on The Westminster Confession of Faith

by A. A. Hodge

Chapter 10
Of Effectual Calling

Section I. All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, he is pleased, in his appointed and accepted time, effectually to call,[1] by his Word and Spirit,[2] out of that state of sin and death, in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation, by Jesus Christ;


Being "predestined unto life" from the WCF perspective is contrary to Biblical truth.


The word "predestined" proorisas (predetermine, foreordain, decide beforehand) has NOTHING to do with the individual and everything to do with God's intent and purpose for the individual.

God has indeed predestined us to be His adopted children, and unto life, holiness, righteousness, blamelessness, etc.


Ephesians 1:3-5

Verse 3

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:"


Those who are in Christ, are blessed with ALL spiritual blessings, by God. These blessings are not an afterthought by God, but were predetermined and then distributed to ALL who are in Christ, without exception. We are in Christ (who is seated at the right hand of God in heavenly places), and He is in us, having given us and sealing us with the Holy Spirit.


Verse 4

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"



Before the foundation of the world, it was God's purpose and His intent that ALL those in Christ are chosen by God to be holy and without blame before Him. This is God's love in action, that we, by His grace and mercy would receive that which we could never achieve. God foreordained that ALL those who are in Christ, WILL BE holy and blameless because they are "in Him".


Verse 5

"Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"



It is God's will that all those who are in Christ will be His children. God therefore predestined us unto adoption to Himself. It is the being adopted, that was predestined. The WCF has this wrong.


Romans 8:29-30

"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."


Who are the ones that God foreknew?

Go back one verse: Rom 8:28

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

It is those who love God and are called according to His purpose.

As Paul just pointed out in Ephesians, God's predetermined purpose for those in Christ is that we are holy and blameless before Him. Nothing can separate us from Him, and all things will work together for good for those of us who are in Him. God did not foreknow who will be in Christ and who will not be in Christ, but God did foreknow that all those who are in Christ will be conformed to His image. God has called ALL those who were predestined to be conformed to His Son, and ALL of these have been justified and glorified. This is God's promise, and it cannot be thwarted by anyone or anything."The called" are those whom God invited to receive all that God had predetermined, predestined, and foreordained, to His purpose.


Ephesians 1:10-13

"That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise".


The inheritance is the promise that was predestined for God's purpose. As Paul points out, this predestined promise is obtained by those who hear the word of truth (the Gospel of our salvation), and believe it. It is promised to anyone who trusts in Christ AFTER hearing the Gospel.


The WCF has it wrong, and sadly, millions of people, like yourself, have wandered off the path of truth, having followed and submitted themselves to this fundamental error.
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