ECT It is critically important to understand Romans 6

[Right Divider]

Jesus: we forgive foist, then we will be forgiven later
Paul: others forgive foist, then we should forgive

I've always said "the hard sayings of Jesus"
are mucho tougher than
our marching orders in the epistles.

Over and out from Star System #395820847.

You must also be a big fan of Looney tunes.

 

[ZacharyB]

Lester Sumrall?
Is he considered a Greek expert and did he say that one of the meanings of the Greek word translated "believe" is to obey?

He qualifies for part B to the great judge who is you!

Jerry, several Greek words have slightly different meanings in the NT
than they duz in the secular world! ... Oh, I said that already.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Jerry, several Greek words have slightly different meanings in the NT
than they duz in the secular world! ... Oh, I said that already.

I am still waiting for you to quote a Greek expert who defines the Greek word translated "believes" in the same way that you define it.

Anyone can make the Bible say anything they want it to say by placing foreign meanings on words found in the Scriptures. And that is exactly what you are doing in your effort to make the Scriptures say something that they don't say.

 

[ZacharyB]

I am still waiting for you to quote a Greek expert who defines the Greek word translated "believes" in the same way that you define it.

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IMO, this resolves the conflict amongst all the NT verses
concerning eternal security, i.e. OSAS ...vs… NO OSAS:
True saving belief = enduring faith, trust, obedience,
and works + no habitual sinning (w/o repentance).
Those who “follow” Jesus “faithfully” are the BACs who
love Him enough to be “obedient” to His commandments!
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Something approximating da blue is necessary
to RECONCILE all of the NT verses.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

IMO, this resolves the conflict amongst all the NT verses
concerning eternal security, i.e. OSAS ...vs… NO OSAS:
True saving belief = enduring faith, trust, obedience,
and works + no habitual sinning (w/o repentance).
Those who “follow” Jesus “faithfully” are the BACs who
love Him enough to be “obedient” to His commandments!

All you did was to make up out of thin air a meaning of the Greek word translated "believe" which is not sanctioned by any Greek expert!

All you do is change the meaning of words so that you can cling to your mistaken ideas!