Inspiration of the Devil:

[Letsargue]

If you are not inspired of God in one way or the other, you are inspired of the Devil. – You are either a Child of God, or a Child of the Devil, depending on whom you follow by inspiration.

John 8:44 KJV – “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, because there is NO TRUTH IN HIM. When “he speaketh a lie”, “he speaketh of his own”: FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND “THE FATHER OF –( IT )-”. ----- The Devil is the father of all liars, and the father of the lies the liars teach. – Read it Again! – However, Christ is the Father of all Christ’ians and the father of all the Truth the Christ’ians teach.

Eve ended up being inspired of Satan, and uninspired of God. - Read it! –
Gnostics and all the faithless, by necessity teach other than the words Christ taught, and teach the things found outside of the Word of Christ / God. --- Is that philosophy? – NO! – By the TRUTH OF CHRIST, and not the untruth of the WORLD. - The world is lost by being inspired of the Devil, and not of Christ / God. ---- You can be inspired by anything other than the Scriptures, and you will be inspired by the doctrines of the Devil. – READ IT! –

Case in point: ----- Genesis 2:17 KJV – “IN THE DAY THAT THOU EATEST thereof THOU SHALT ( SURELY DIE )”. ----- They didn’t die! – You say they did, but God didn’t say they died in any way. – They were cursed and PUT OUT OF THE GARDEN! – Didn’t die! – You say they died and God didn’t say that, you do. – I don’t say they died the day they ate of the tree, you do. – That’s a lie! It didn’t happen! – WHY! -? – Eve would have caused them to die, however, Adam ate of the tree - “BECAUSE” – “FOR A CAUSE”, ( They did eat of it and were punished, but not with DEATH )- But Adam ate to put Eve’s sin upon himself. They did eat, BUT! -- To save his wife he took THE sin upon himself and was justified for doing so, therefore THEY DIDN’T DIE, but only were put out of the Garden with a curse for the rest of THEIR LIVES! ---- Had Adam and Eve DIED THAT DAY; there couldn’t have been the rest of the world to be saved through Christ doing the same thing. Where’s your wisdom?. – Adam LIVED 930 years and begat sons and daughters, and great, great, great, great, great, great, great, PLUS grandsons and daughters that brought Christ into the world to SAVE THAT WORLD. --- Jesus did the very same thing Adam did. - Jesus took the sins of that world upon himself and died for the Church / HIS WIFE. and we are to do the SAME THING. – WHERE’S YOUR WISDOM? ---- Ephesians 5:25 KJV - Husbands, love your wives, even as CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE CHURCH, AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR IT”. ----- The Church so happens to be the spouse / bride / wife of Christ. -- Don’t believe me; believe the Devil. ---- Does that sound like they died the day they ate of the tree? – You’ll still SAY THEY DIED, either this way or that way, but you will say they DIED when they DID NOT! – Who do you believe, me or the Devil that taught you? ---- One of us is the Angel of the Lord, and the other is an angel of the Devil. – You know where the Devil and his angels are going, or do you not believe that either?

Paul – 100810

 

[FrankieTOL]

Very black and white thought...

No grey in religion?

 

[Wunderhund]

You know I have been reading through your posts and I have to say that I think you have a very......um.......different point of view and to be perfectly honest with you I cannot even fathom where you come up with your line of thinking.

 

[freelight]

there's more than just black and white......

there's more than just black and white......

If you are not inspired of God in one way or the other, you are inspired of the Devil. – You are either a Child of God, or a Child of the Devil, depending on whom you follow by inspiration.

John 8:44 KJV – “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, because there is NO TRUTH IN HIM. When “he speaketh a lie”, “he speaketh of his own”: FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND “THE FATHER OF –( IT )-”. ----- The Devil is the father of all liars, and the father of the lies the liars teach.

Remember 'context' and 'situation' when Jesus supposedly spoke this. There is no grounds to apply this to all situations of life beyond assumption since a multitude of influencing factors may affect one's inspiration.

Eve ended up being inspired of Satan, and uninspired of God. - Read it! –

This is uniquely a traditional/orthodox 'christian' interpretation assuming the 'serpent' in Genesis as 'satan'. In some gnostic myths the serpent is actually 'Wisdom' personified giving man true knowledge, to liberate him from the false god or 'demiurge' (Yahweh) who seeks only to enslave him. You will note that the serpent does tell man the truth, for even YHWH Elohim confirms this...that man by eating of the fruit did come into knowledge of good & evil. You will also note that this basic discerning knowledge is essential for man to 'differentiate' between things and make value-judgments. These two trees are native to the garden of the soul, hence their existence. If they served no purpose or import, they would not be made available.

Gnostics and all the faithless, by necessity teach other than the words Christ taught, and teach the things found outside of the Word of Christ / God.

Faith is not denied by gnostics, for it has its place. And for your 'assumption', prove that the words of Jesus are only found in the 4 gospels that are now in the NT, when dozens of gospels existed, and we have other manuscripts, scrolls and modern day messages of Jesus to research and compare. If a saying has truth in it, the Spirit of truth will convey it. As far as determining the actual words of Jesus and what are interpolations, well...thats a venture in itself.

--- Is that philosophy? – NO! – By the TRUTH OF CHRIST, and not the untruth of the WORLD. - The world is lost by being inspired of the Devil, and not of Christ / God. ---- You can be inspired by anything other than the Scriptures, and you will be inspired by the doctrines of the Devil. – READ IT! –

See first response.

Case in point: ----- Genesis 2:17 KJV – “IN THE DAY THAT THOU EATEST thereof THOU SHALT ( SURELY DIE )”. ----- They didn’t die! – You say they did, but God didn’t say they died in any way. – They were cursed and PUT OUT OF THE GARDEN! – Didn’t die! – You say they died and God didn’t say that, you do. – I don’t say they died the day they ate of the tree, you do. – That’s a lie! It didn’t happen! – WHY! -? – Eve would have caused them to die, however, Adam ate of the tree - “BECAUSE” – “FOR A CAUSE”, ( They did eat of it and were punished, but not with DEATH )- But Adam ate to put Eve’s sin upon himself. They did eat, BUT! -- To save his wife he took THE sin upon himself and was justified for doing so, therefore THEY DIDN’T DIE, but only were put out of the Garden with a curse for the rest of THEIR LIVES! ---- Had Adam and Eve DIED THAT DAY; there couldn’t have been the rest of the world to be saved through Christ doing the same thing. Where’s your wisdom?. – Adam LIVED 930 years and begat sons and daughters, and great, great, great, great, great, great, great, PLUS grandsons and daughters that brought Christ into the world to SAVE THAT WORLD. --- Jesus did the very same thing Adam did. - Jesus took the sins of that world upon himself and died for the Church / HIS WIFE. and we are to do the SAME THING. – WHERE’S YOUR WISDOM? ---- Ephesians 5:25 KJV - Husbands, love your wives, even as CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE CHURCH, AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR IT”. ----- The Church so happens to be the spouse / bride / wife of Christ. -- Don’t believe me; believe the Devil. ---- Does that sound like they died the day they ate of the tree? – You’ll still SAY THEY DIED, either this way or that way, but you will say they DIED when they DID NOT! – Who do you believe, me or the Devil that taught you? ---- One of us is the Angel of the Lord, and the other is an angel of the Devil. – You know where the Devil and his angels are going, or do you not believe that either?

I have no clue who you are referring to about claiming that A&E DIED. Claiming that all things are black or white is a bit presumptuous when diverse viewpoints exist within any given spectrum. Between darkness and light are all the colours of the rainbow.

Also, consider that all that exists is from 'God' and emerges from His universal substance, mind and Spirit....so that we live, move and have our being in Him. Even the so called 'devil' has his origin in 'God', for nothing can exist outside The Infinite. However it might be that some give too much credit to satan, when such is misplaced.

All glory belongs to God, for God is One, and God is All.


pj