Bloody sacrifice is insult to absolute love Heavenly Father

stephengoswami

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During Bangladesh liberation war Pakistani army often offered captured Bengalis in the way animals are ritually offered to Allah, by partially slicing their necks. Those suffered prolonged death agony as the ritually offered animals suffered. Islam being an offshoot of violent Judaism they inherit that human and animal sacrifice rite from it. In bible there are many instances of human sacrifices not only to gods but to Jew god also. Actually Jew god was no different from them, rather worse than Hindu gods in violence.

Love is the scale to evaluate everything men and Gods. Hindu gods spared women and children but Jew-god didn’t. It is a blunder of Christians that they venerate such violent Jew-god for Christ’s birth among Jewish people. Christ had to come in this pride-devil’s domain through one of devil’s protégée’s. Jew-god was chosen as he was the weakest among them. Other stronger gods might have nipped him in the bud. Actually Roman gods were subduing Jew-god then.

People in religious business offer easy religions to fallen lazy humanity for worldly gains. They tell that their sins can be forgiven by offering animals or humans as sacrifice to deities. Even clerics in Christian religions do so by saying that Christ is the human sacrifice for humanity’s sins. They tell that if one believes in Christ, his bloody sacrifice will atone for one’s sins to give salvation. They also say that as long as you continue to profess Christ by joining churches and religious ceremonies you can live freely to enjoy! Some immensely popular preaches even say the pernicious falsehood that if you once believed in Christ your salvation is assured even if you live in sin falling from faith.

But sins can’t be put upon another, forgiven or washed away as it has no existence by itself like darkness, coldness or foolishness etc. These denote absence of light, heat and intelligence respectively. Though injury due to one’s sins like theft, anger, irresponsibility etc. can be forgiven by the harmed one, those vices don’t go away from the sinner by that. These negations will become positive only when positive things are put into it like light, heat, intelligence etc. respectively.

Sin is the relative absence of love-integrity strength of soul. Then one becomes too weak to control passions. When one indulges in anti-love actions (sin) he destroys own integrity by decreasing internal bonding love. Only way to correct sin is to practice Christ exhorted love-works of 2nd commandment. Then love will increase by exercise and integrate us stronger, enabling us to control passions.

But how came the notion that cruel negative action of killing a life can atone sin?
It is liar devil’s falsehood. As he is a killer from the beginning, he tries to sanctify killing by this.
How devil arose then?

Love-God creates everything by bonding material and spiritual particles by different types of love. But spiritual creations of souls and paradises can suicidally go against love by anti-love actions, while material creation can’t. Then they start disintegrating as internal bonding love decreases by their anti-love actions. Some old paradises and souls in spiritual creation become pride-selfishness infected. They run for power, glory and dominion instead of love. There arise proud-devils who fight for power. While they get it, they start disintegrating themselves and that paradise. Power corrupts and love builds up. They delude themselves and others saying that hating, fighting and killing is a good action as old testament, Quran and Hindu scriptures state even here. By in-fight then they fall from that paradise as war-refugees (Rev12,7-12 and Indian Puran) and take hold of this earth. All of us have fallen to this pride-devil’s domain from one such pride-degenerated paradise, far larger than earth as sun is. We see that way worldly organizations are destroyed also. Every good organization is started by self-sacrificing love and destroyed by pride.

Only love-practice increases internal love to love-integrate soul parts. Love’s nature is binding together. That integrity strength empowers soul to overcome sin, suffering and death. That is salvation. So Love is called God in gospel. Christ, the teacher, always stressed on practicing the 2nd commandment for this. He or even Heavenly Father, the unity of Heavenly parents, can’t give that to anyone from outside. Our souls are autonomous; otherwise they wouldn’t be God-like souls at all.

Becoming alienated from Love-God, we entered into the proud angel-devil’s group starting from Eve and Adam. The original sin, divisive pride soon broke that group into fragments and in-fight started between them. We were driven out by stronger fragments. So from Adam’s time human souls are falling into Homo sapiens’s body here. We worshipped the same devil-gods including the jew-god, following whom we have fallen here. These angry devil-gods demanded killing in the name of sacrifice. So we killed animals and eachother on the alter and the war-fields(venerated as holy place in Hinduism and Islam) from Adam’s time.

The numbers of refugees were exponentially increasing. Now, that has reached a climax as war is now most intensified in that falling paradise, million times bigger than earth as sun is. Immense numbers of refugee souls have overcrowded earth and other places now. Their superior power has brought rapid technological advance. But being unrepentant they are continuing their in-fight here too with their superior weapons. Their souls (personality) will disintegrate-vanish by such anti-love actions here or in afterlife as in mad people. But their soul-parts will live on to suffer by selfish like them. This is eternal death and eternal torment in outer darkness hell. This immense river of fallen disintegrated souls is flowing down out to the ocean-like limitless outer darkness to be lost forever.

But living Christ is helping the few souls who seek life intensely by showing them the path to love-integrate their souls again by love practice. They shall rather accept martyrdom than obey pride-devil to hate and kill. In communist lands such martyrs numbered more than a million in recent times. Still they were less than hundredth of the total Christ-professing population there. In the coming atomic holocaust they will use those weapons compulsively for all out destruction projecting them as religious sacrifice as fidayeens do. Then too, such loving unto death martyrs will save their own souls refusing to murder and hate.

Absolute love Heavenly Father never seeks murder or does murder. He always forgives all, even devils beforehand. So there is no need to placate Him by torturing and murdering any. There is no death in Him. Disintegration and death comes when autonomous we depart far from Him.

It is a blasphemy to say that He sought Christ‘s death for our sins. Really Christ, the unity of self-sacrificing souls, never died, only suffered. He is no body, but spiritual unity with similar ones and Father. Besides no one can atone for or wash away others sins as I had explained. Christ’s salvific function is as a perfect exemplified teacher by moral appeal. He put up with our murderous torture only to exemplify his love-forgiveness and expose our depravity to bring us to repentance. So we must erase the long brain-washed falsehood that Christ died for us. Rather we should say that Christ lives for us. So the futile rituals of eating Christ’s body and drinking his blood as jews did of the cruelly killed Pascal lamb should be discarded. http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthre...-for-Christ-saves-faith-ruse-is-suicide-noose


Real Christ-followers must depart from the Christ-rejecter Christendom as Christ told to his disciples to depart from Jerusalem. As its ramparts and weapons were responsible for its own destruction, so will be the weapons and armies of the Christendom. As the apostles went away to truth-seeker heathens, they must go also. But before that they must be cleared of all the falsehoods of present hypocrite Christianity. They must stand on sound Christ-guided scientific reason. Bible was compiled by the prejudiced reason of warmongering Catholics. No angel told them what to choose and discard. That ancient time they were scientifically ignorant and too much influenced by violent Judaism. Now my reason is reformed and cleared by Christ from those previously brainwashed into me, through my 50 years destitute serving and Muslim mission in poverty and celibacy.
 

john w

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During Bangladesh liberation war Pakistani army often offered captured Bengalis in the way animals are ritually offered to Allah, by partially slicing their necks. Those suffered prolonged death agony as the ritually offered animals suffered. Islam being an offshoot of violent Judaism they inherit that human and animal sacrifice rite from it. In bible there are many instances of human sacrifices not only to gods but to Jew god also. Actually Jew god was no different from them, rather worse than Hindu gods in violence.

Love is the scale to evaluate everything men and Gods. Hindu gods spared women and children but Jew-god didn’t. It is a blunder of Christians that they venerate such violent Jew-god for Christ’s birth among Jewish people. Christ had to come in this pride-devil’s domain through one of devil’s protégée’s. Jew-god was chosen as he was the weakest among them. Other stronger gods might have nipped him in the bud. Actually Roman gods were subduing Jew-god then.

People in religious business offer easy religions to fallen lazy humanity for worldly gains. They tell that their sins can be forgiven by offering animals or humans as sacrifice to deities. Even clerics in Christian religions do so by saying that Christ is the human sacrifice for humanity’s sins. They tell that if one believes in Christ, his bloody sacrifice will atone for one’s sins to give salvation. They also say that as long as you continue to profess Christ by joining churches and religious ceremonies you can live freely to enjoy! Some immensely popular preaches even say the pernicious falsehood that if you once believed in Christ your salvation is assured even if you live in sin falling from faith.

But sins can’t be put upon another, forgiven or washed away as it has no existence by itself like darkness, coldness or foolishness etc. These denote absence of light, heat and intelligence respectively. Though injury due to one’s sins like theft, anger, irresponsibility etc. can be forgiven by the harmed one, those vices don’t go away from the sinner by that. These negations will become positive only when positive things are put into it like light, heat, intelligence etc. respectively.

Sin is the relative absence of love-integrity strength of soul. Then one becomes too weak to control passions. When one indulges in anti-love actions (sin) he destroys own integrity by decreasing internal bonding love. Only way to correct sin is to practice Christ exhorted love-works of 2nd commandment. Then love will increase by exercise and integrate us stronger, enabling us to control passions.

But how came the notion that cruel negative action of killing a life can atone sin?
It is liar devil’s falsehood. As he is a killer from the beginning, he tries to sanctify killing by this.
How devil arose then?

Love-God creates everything by bonding material and spiritual particles by different types of love. But spiritual creations of souls and paradises can suicidally go against love by anti-love actions, while material creation can’t. Then they start disintegrating as internal bonding love decreases by their anti-love actions. Some old paradises and souls in spiritual creation become pride-selfishness infected. They run for power, glory and dominion instead of love. There arise proud-devils who fight for power. While they get it, they start disintegrating themselves and that paradise. Power corrupts and love builds up. They delude themselves and others saying that hating, fighting and killing is a good action as old testament, Quran and Hindu scriptures state even here. By in-fight then they fall from that paradise as war-refugees (Rev12,7-12 and Indian Puran) and take hold of this earth. All of us have fallen to this pride-devil’s domain from one such pride-degenerated paradise, far larger than earth as sun is. We see that way worldly organizations are destroyed also. Every good organization is started by self-sacrificing love and destroyed by pride.

Only love-practice increases internal love to love-integrate soul parts. Love’s nature is binding together. That integrity strength empowers soul to overcome sin, suffering and death. That is salvation. So Love is called God in gospel. Christ, the teacher, always stressed on practicing the 2nd commandment for this. He or even Heavenly Father, the unity of Heavenly parents, can’t give that to anyone from outside. Our souls are autonomous; otherwise they wouldn’t be God-like souls at all.

Becoming alienated from Love-God, we entered into the proud angel-devil’s group starting from Eve and Adam. The original sin, divisive pride soon broke that group into fragments and in-fight started between them. We were driven out by stronger fragments. So from Adam’s time human souls are falling into Homo sapiens’s body here. We worshipped the same devil-gods including the jew-god, following whom we have fallen here. These angry devil-gods demanded killing in the name of sacrifice. So we killed animals and eachother on the alter and the war-fields(venerated as holy place in Hinduism and Islam) from Adam’s time.

The numbers of refugees were exponentially increasing. Now, that has reached a climax as war is now most intensified in that falling paradise, million times bigger than earth as sun is. Immense numbers of refugee souls have overcrowded earth and other places now. Their superior power has brought rapid technological advance. But being unrepentant they are continuing their in-fight here too with their superior weapons. Their souls (personality) will disintegrate-vanish by such anti-love actions here or in afterlife as in mad people. But their soul-parts will live on to suffer by selfish like them. This is eternal death and eternal torment in outer darkness hell. This immense river of fallen disintegrated souls is flowing down out to the ocean-like limitless outer darkness to be lost forever.

But living Christ is helping the few souls who seek life intensely by showing them the path to love-integrate their souls again by love practice. They shall rather accept martyrdom than obey pride-devil to hate and kill. In communist lands such martyrs numbered more than a million in recent times. Still they were less than hundredth of the total Christ-professing population there. In the coming atomic holocaust they will use those weapons compulsively for all out destruction projecting them as religious sacrifice as fidayeens do. Then too, such loving unto death martyrs will save their own souls refusing to murder and hate.

Absolute love Heavenly Father never seeks murder or does murder. He always forgives all, even devils beforehand. So there is no need to placate Him by torturing and murdering any. There is no death in Him. Disintegration and death comes when autonomous we depart far from Him.

It is a blasphemy to say that He sought Christ‘s death for our sins. Really Christ, the unity of self-sacrificing souls, never died, only suffered. He is no body, but spiritual unity with similar ones and Father. Besides no one can atone for or wash away others sins as I had explained. Christ’s salvific function is as a perfect exemplified teacher by moral appeal. He put up with our murderous torture only to exemplify his love-forgiveness and expose our depravity to bring us to repentance. So we must erase the long brain-washed falsehood that Christ died for us. Rather we should say that Christ lives for us. So the futile rituals of eating Christ’s body and drinking his blood as jews did of the cruelly killed Pascal lamb should be discarded. http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthre...-for-Christ-saves-faith-ruse-is-suicide-noose


Real Christ-followers must depart from the Christ-rejecter Christendom as Christ told to his disciples to depart from Jerusalem. As its ramparts and weapons were responsible for its own destruction, so will be the weapons and armies of the Christendom. As the apostles went away to truth-seeker heathens, they must go also. But before that they must be cleared of all the falsehoods of present hypocrite Christianity. They must stand on sound Christ-guided scientific reason. Bible was compiled by the prejudiced reason of warmongering Catholics. No angel told them what to choose and discard. That ancient time they were scientifically ignorant and too much influenced by violent Judaism. Now my reason is reformed and cleared by Christ from those previously brainwashed into me, through my 50 years destitute serving and Muslim mission in poverty and celibacy.

Exodus 12:13 KJV
And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.



stephengoswami version:

When I see your behaviour.




It's called lost....blind....the way of Cain...
 

john w

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You had better have a good defense attorney if you are depending on your own Gen. 3:7 KJV fig leaves, and are going to present to a Holy(the #1 attribute of the LORD God in the Holy Bible)LORD God your own Genesis 4:3 KJV fruit, like Cain did, instead of accepting, as a gift, the righteousness of God in Christ, which includes propitiation-blood. Attorney suggestions:

1. Owen Marshall, Counsellor at Law
2. Judd for the Defense
3. Ben Matlock
4. Fred G. Sanford, and the "G", stands for "Guilty" as in "as charged"-Romans 3:19 KJV.

"Grading on the curve" may have "passed" you in grade school/high school/college, but it won't work before a holy, righteous LORD God, who holds you, and each and every one of us, accountable to His standards, and not ours, and also it won't work to compare our own righteousness to each others', as even rats can do that. The LORD God would not, and will not, accept anything we do, or do not do, as a basis for a right standing with Him, given the great sacrifice He undertook in allowing His only begotten Son, the most lovely person to ever walk this evil world, who knew no sin, and watched us beat Him, mock Him, spit on Him, and crucify Him, in our place, as our substitute-a bloody sacrifice. How many parents would do the same, if they saw their child, who is not innocent, undergo what the Lord Jesus Christ did, who was/is innocent-death by blood? No, those who reject this gift, who despise "the Spirit of grace"(Hebrews 10:29 KJV trans dispensational principle)will find themselves in front of an angry LORD God, with no defense, and no court of appeal.
 

Nick M

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Isaiah 53

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.


The crucifixion was God's own doing. You are not alone in rejecting this. The person with the most posts on TOL also rejects Isaiah 53, and that is pleases God.
 

Totton Linnet

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My blood is shed for the remission of sins.

How India does need a true messenger of the cross, you mix God's message with the mystic teachings that neither benefitted you or your forefathers.

Cast off that mystic wisdom that has neither benifetted you or your forefathers, embrace the true gospel of Paul and Christ.

Praying for the great nation of India
 
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