ECT Acquaintance with grief _ a Holy Spirit insight

[Cross Reference]

A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Isaiah 53:3.

"We are not acquainted with grief in the way in which Our Lord was acquainted with it; we endure it, we get through it, but we do not become intimate with it. At the beginning of life we do not reconcile ourselves to the fact of sin. We take a rational view of life and say that a man by controlling his instincts, and by educating himself, can produce a life which will slowly evolve into the life of God. But as we go on, we find the presence of something which we have not taken into consideration, viz., sin, and it upsets all our calculations. Sin has made the basis of things wild and not rational. We have to recognize that sin is a fact, not a defect; sin is red-handed mutiny against God. Either God or sin must die in my life. The New Testament brings us right down to this one issue. If sin rules in me, God’s life in me will be killed; if God rules in me, sin in me will be killed. There is no possible ultimate but that. The climax of sin is that it crucified Jesus Christ, and what was true in the history of God on earth will be true in your history and in mine. In our mental outlook we have to reconcile ourselves to the fact of sin as the only explanation as to why Jesus Christ came, and the explanation of the grief and sorrow in life."


Chambers, O. (1986). My utmost for his highest: Selections for the year. Grand Rapids, MI: Oswald Chambers Publications; Marshall Pickering.

 

[Psalmist]

A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Isaiah 53:3.

"We are not acquainted with grief in the way in which Our Lord was acquainted with it; we endure it, we get through it, but we do not become intimate with it. At the beginning of life we do not reconcile ourselves to the fact of sin. We take a rational view of life and say that a man by controlling his instincts, and by educating himself, can produce a life which will slowly evolve into the life of God. But as we go on, we find the presence of something which we have not taken into consideration, viz., sin, and it upsets all our calculations. Sin has made the basis of things wild and not rational. We have to recognize that sin is a fact, not a defect; sin is red-handed mutiny against God. Either God or sin must die in my life. The New Testament brings us right down to this one issue. If sin rules in me, God’s life in me will be killed; if God rules in me, sin in me will be killed. There is no possible ultimate but that. The climax of sin is that it crucified Jesus Christ, and what was true in the history of God on earth will be true in your history and in mine. In our mental outlook we have to reconcile ourselves to the fact of sin as the only explanation as to why Jesus Christ came, and the explanation of the grief and sorrow in life."


Chambers, O. (1986). My utmost for his highest: Selections for the year. Grand Rapids, MI: Oswald Chambers Publications; Marshall Pickering.

Bury a child and see how quickly and well you become acquainted with grief, and find Jesus to sufficient even in that hour.


Let one star burn out and no one notices it, let instrument the grand orchestra cease to play and who hears it, let the bank go missing one penny but who counts it, but silence a child voice in death and everyone hears it.​

 

[Cross Reference]

Bury a child and see how quickly and well you become acquainted with grief, and find Jesus to sufficient even in that hour.


Let one star burn out and notices it, let instrument the grand orchestra cease to play and who hears it, let one penny go missing in the bank who counts it, but silence a child voice in death and everyone hears it.​

I think you need to proof read your statement to make it more clear. I am not understanding you.

 

[Psalmist]

I think you need to proof read your statement to make it more clear. I am not understanding you.

True, that was shameful, as I was a printer for 38 years.​

 

[Psalmist]

Bury a child and see how quickly and well you become acquainted with grief, and find Jesus to sufficient even in that hour.


Let one star burn out and no one notices it, let instrument the grand orchestra cease to play and who hears it, let the bank go missing one penny but who counts it, but silence a child voice in death and everyone hears it.​

Fixed​

The death of a child is a terrible thing to go through.

 

[Cross Reference]

Fixed​

The death of a child is a terrible thing to go through.

I know.

 

[republicanchick]

A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Isaiah 53:3.

"We are not acquainted with grief in the way in which Our Lord was acquainted with it; we endure it, we get through it, but we do not become intimate with it. At the beginning of life we do not reconcile ourselves to the fact of sin. We take a rational view of life and say that a man by controlling his instincts, and by educating himself, can produce a life which will slowly evolve into the life of God. But as we go on, we find the presence of something which we have not taken into consideration, viz., sin, and it upsets all our calculations. Sin has made the basis of things wild and not rational. We have to recognize that sin is a fact, not a defect; sin is red-handed mutiny against God. Either God or sin must die in my life. The New Testament brings us right down to this one issue. If sin rules in me, God’s life in me will be killed; if God rules in me, sin in me will be killed. There is no possible ultimate but that. The climax of sin is that it crucified Jesus Christ, and what was true in the history of God on earth will be true in your history and in mine. In our mental outlook we have to reconcile ourselves to the fact of sin as the only explanation as to why Jesus Christ came, and the explanation of the grief and sorrow in life."


Chambers, O. (1986). My utmost for his highest: Selections for the year. Grand Rapids, MI: Oswald Chambers Publications; Marshall Pickering.

well, you have MY nihil obstat

and i think the Church would give it as well

you are being rather Catholic

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[Cross Reference]

well, you have MY nihil obstat

and i think the Church would give it as well

you are being rather Catholic

___

Please explain your terminology as how it might apply?

 

[Psalmist]

The death of your child is filled grief and sorrow, and weighs very heavy on the heart.

I but for a moment cover the deity side of Jesus and death (and His resurrection) and give place to the humanity side of Jesus.

Mary the mother of Jesus watching her son die. That is almost beyond words.

John 19:25
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.


Jesus/Christ the man God, humanity/deity
Christ Jesus the God man, deity/humanity​

 

[Cross Reference]

The death of your child is filled grief and sorrow, and weighs very heavy on the heart.

I but for a moment cover the deity side of Jesus and death (and His resurrection) and give place to the humanity side of Jesus.

Mary the mother of Jesus watching her son die. That is almost beyond words.

John 19:25
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.


Jesus/Christ the man God, humanity/deity
Christ Jesus the God man, deity/humanity​

The humanity of Jesus notwithstanding, the "humanity" of Mary was "spiritually" prepared of what happened to her Son. That is part of what it means for the Christian who knows there is an intimate relationship to be had with God and pursues it per John 17:3.

 

[Psalmist]

The humanity of Jesus notwithstanding, Mary was "spiritually" prepared of what happened to her Son. That is part of what it means for the Christian who knows there is an intimate relationship to be had with God.

How "Spiritually" prepared and ready for what Jesus was going go through was His mother Mary?

Do you think Jesus mother, Mary, had very close and quiet conversations with Jesus her son?
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How "Spiritually" prepared and ready for what Jesus was going go through was His mother Mary?​

How did she know to accept the gifts of the Magi's for what they stood for at His birth was but one instance.

Do you think Jesus mother, Mary, had very close and quiet conversations with Jesus her son?

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Why should we doubt she didn't, and with God, having already had conversations with Angels? Remember, she nurtured Jesus until His 'graduation day' [30 yrs.] when Jesus was then "adopted" back to His Father at His water Baptism. [That was the custom in those days]

 

[Psalmist]

How did she know to accept the gifts of the Magi's for what they stood for at His birth was but one instance.

Why should we doubt she didn't, and with God, having already had conversations with Angels? Remember, she nurtured Jesus until His 'graduation day' [30 yrs.] when Jesus was then "adopted" back to His Father at His water Baptism. [That was the custom in those days]

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[Cross Reference]

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Thank you.

Indeed, God would have us, who are born of Him, to learn His ways that should times of grief come to us, we would know how to handle the thing and even perhaps understand more in the situation that will enrich us in Him.