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Try something for me, humor me: Go to your favorite bible program and search "Changed mind." I've taken all kinds of grief for saying it is never found in scriptures, but try it for me. Try to also use a word for word translation like KJV or NASB, because it cannot give you a paraphrase...

Just exactly what any one word means. If we translate a word to mean three words, it becomes a bit tenous. When the King James was translated, they attempted word for word translation: One Hebrew word, one English Word. One Greek word, one English word. If we see three words in place of...

Not a tangent. I have to ask "What does 'that's so rad' mean, and could you possibly say this rephrased in a way that would be more meaningful to me?" Similarly "I changed my mind" has never added up. Sure I understand it when you say "I changed my mind, I will let this go, don't go to...

I'm trying to follow, would: "God meets our need, thus cannot be immutable"? be the summation of this argument?

It didn't say classical theism was absurd, it said 'if pushed literally, changing one's mind is an absurdity.' The app then said that 'mind' doesn't mean 'brain' when used that way, but it absolutely agreed and even gave better statements that better fit what actually happens whenever we make...

Sure, much better and more accurate than "changed His mind." While many translations/paraphrases would intimate 'changed His mind' the problem is if a theologian, layman or otherwise, insists on it. It is simply not scripturally accurate and 'dumbed down' sloppy so 'the layman gets it' but...

Me: The problem is God's impassivity by translation. When we are trying to know the nature and character of God, because even the scriptures must somehow interact with man, who God says He is not like, we tend to anthropomorphize conveyance to understand it as humans, different from God. The...

The one problem: are we reading paraphrase or actual intent? If we stick to some one's particular rendition, have we bought that particular translator(s) paraphraser's rendition that can be off?

If I actually knew you, we'd be friends. You get mad at me a lot, but I know you. Do you really know me? If exasperating, we simply disagree and you will not entertain that you can be anything but right. It is a huge OV trait. I believe it is brainwashing because all of you become...

Yup, me too. I've been away a long time, basically a 4 month ignore on my part. I get it. I have it too. Open Theism clouds issues from practical understanding or dialogue: there is literally no such thing as 'changing one's mind.' You cannot grab your brain and exchange it. Because...

Glad I took the sabbatical. With mindless non-sequiturs like this, I'll keep on my sabbatical. You both lose by inane banter. Open Theism will always be a joke as long as stuff like this makes it one. You simply have to stand up like men when honest, serious questions, challenge your...

These apply specifically in the accusation that I don't quote scripture often. So far in thread I've been accused of not quoting scripture, not being honest, etc. I used to think I only had one accuser :( Is it possible that someone is so vested in their own theology that they'd call...

*cough cough* Note that it is a commentary by an Open Theist, not scriptures. Why? Because you will never find "God changed His mind." "Liar" not with any kind of standing. It is reckless to make the assertion. Granted Open Theism must have it true, but it is not. You'll never...

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Very long, please allow me to edit quite a bit out but it is still very long. I recommend only addressing what peaks your interest. I'll continue to try and pare down as much as I can. Ignore anything of small import if you respond and ty. Except there were many churches, and while Paul...

First, I'm not sure I responded. Second, for Derf (just one of many) 2 Timothy 3:16 Isaiah 55:11. That said: Proverbs 4:7 (JR, you forgot to link your verses as you often ask me to do, was familiar with the set, so didn't need to look it up, but maybe others need it).

For what reason? It, in fact is true. Why must you have God unable to know the future? Let me say this again: You will never find a verse that says God changed His mind. Open Theists repeat this and repeat this and it doesn't exist anywhere in scripture. "For what reason?" Every...

Isn't a strawman, there is no other reason any Open Theist ever has given. It thus may be 'your' strawman, (it isn't, you have often argued about your free will in conversations as a concern), but it isn't an Open Theist free will strawman. Open Theism, is free will theism, even your own...

True, but I was asking why Open Theism cares 'when' God knows anything. I, of course know the answer: "Because I wanna be as free as I think I am and hate anything that seems to take that away." True? There is no other reason I know of to care, and I don't. Here is the thing: I...

Well, I love you guys, truly. We are at a standstill and that is okay. I see Open Theism consistently deny God knows where Adam is, even though He knows at that exact moment the number of hairs on his head. I see Open Theism deny Jesus knew Peter was going to deny Him three times exactly...