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"Word has it" as in someone just made it up because they thought it was funny. After all there could be absolutely no other possible reason you would hold an Easter event on Sunday now is there?

So as someone who claims to be acting as part of a religion associated with televangelists and faith healers, you want to start comparing notes on people who commit fraud to sensationalize themselves?

No, I don't spend my life worrying about other people's sex lives.

Once again, bi-sexuals exist.

So now you are questioning your claim that she was abused as a child?

One would think that if that were the case she would have retained custody of her child instead of the courts giving him to a guardian with a known history of allowing her children to be abused, a fact you are not disputing: So you are saying that despite everyone in a position to personally...

So you are celebrating that a woman died young from a prolonged illness that may or may not have had anything to do with her sexual orientation, that a child was given into the care of a KNOWN abusive guardian, the same guardian that according to your beliefs made someone else LGBT, and all...

Trump to sign border deal, declare a national emergency So anyone who has seen my posting on any of the political boards I follow is going to know I am no fan of President Trump. I think he is sort of the embodiment of every negative stereotype we have of both politicians and businessmen. But...

And some historians think that it was caused by lead poisoning. The hypothesis that homosexuality leads to the fall of the Empire is a very minor one with little evidence to support it. Too bad they didn't make Christianity the national religion and decided "homosexuality MUST be...

Well, there was that Roman Empire thing that lasted pretty well until after they outlawed homosexuality but that was a little thing.

:darwinsm:And promptly be laughed out of court.

One of the points I raised on the problems with conversion therapy, there is no standardized methodology being considered. They lump it all together based on the outcome, not the method. But you can't test it that way. In reality, every one of these treatments would have to proven separately...

There has always been a certain amount of fluidity around the edges of sexual orientation and bisexuals exist. The real question then is the amount of change that is possible and whether or not it can be forced without excessive harm. Which is why it is critical to proving that it is...

I wasn't talking about harm prior to treatment, I was talking about potential harm the treatment itself does. But never mind this one was a gimme anyway as it is clearly your position I just ask to validate it. So I take the answer as yes. I honestly don't have a problem with it as long as...

So I have a few questions I would like to get the feel of your position on. These aren't trick questions to lure into a trap or anything. I think we can take as a given that you feel conversion therapies, regardless of how much harm they may or may not do, should remain legal as long some...

You are making the case that your case is hopeless and lost. Like it or not those organizations are the mental health community, they are the ones who write the DMS. So they are the ones you need to convince to put homosexuality back in there. Questioning the morality of the membership...

As was pointed out earlier, of the 13 peer-reviewed studies out there that looked at the effectiveness of conversion therapy, 12 found that it was ineffective and did more harm than good to its patients. The remaining one suffers from methodology questions that make its outcomes questionable...

The group that admitted their failure rate was 99%, apologized for the hurt and harm they had done to their patients and shut their doors.

Seems an adequate label to me, do you find them desirable? Oh, wait what am I saying, they are your favorite masturbation subject, of course, you desire them. And pretty much every mental health professional association outside of Russia and the Third World. Also the WHO. It is amazing how...

Perhaps but they still represent the subject matter experts on the field. If you wish to change it they are the ones you need to convince.