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  1. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    From the post you wrote immediately prior to having made this statement... "If this is correct, then the unity‑of‑the‑Trinity problem is resolved." You don't get to have it both ways. At best! The problem is that you present it not as a mere theory but as what you believe to be the case...
  2. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    It seems it is you who stops half way through reading things for I addressed that EXACT point in my post! "Instead, this article wants regress to be explanatory. Where the infinite regress actually grounds the thing in question. The problem is, you don’t get that just by saying it. Appealing to...
  3. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    I read the article “Turtles all the way down” : The Unity of the Trinity as Eternal Regress in the Godhead". I wanted to read something he's written to get a feel for what sort of thinker he is, or whether he is one at all. I chose this one because it's a relatively recent writing and because I...
  4. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Ah! The source of his copy/paste jobs!
  5. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Like I said, he doesn't respond to arguments. He's just in repeat himself mode.
  6. Clete

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Not because the Ten Commandments says so, I'm not! Here's a question Idolator does NOT know the answer too... What's the difference between following the law and being righteous? Conversely.... What's the difference between breaking the law and sinning?
  7. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    MWinther seems to have taken leave of his senses. He doesn't respond to arguments and seems to be trying not to make any rational sense. He's just found a way to believe whatever the hell he desires for the bible to teach. Why such people care to call themselves Christian baffles me. He's no...
  8. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Then, perhaps instead of trying to sound educated, you should try to communicate your ideas more clearly. This is an overstatement that cannot have been anything other than intentional. Luther's doctrine could hardly be any more saturated with Augustinianism if he tried! Calvinism, which is...
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    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

  10. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    I can assure you that I am not joking. That's because they don't "just open the bible and read it, as if the truth were simply written there in black and white"! The doctrine of Sola Scriptura is self-defeating. No they don't. This is an extreme over reaction. There are teachers and there are...
  11. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    There is no such thing as any doctrinal statement or theological system that you have any rational grounds whatsoever by which to falsify. Falsify! Forget falsification, you've just undermined any ability to even vaguely refute any wild-eyed wack job's doctrinal claim. If David Koresh wants to...
  12. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    Which of the doctrines I listed are you suggesting one can omit and still be saved?
  13. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    That is a very doctrinal statement you just made! This too is a very doctrinal statement you're making. The single most doctrinal statement you've made yet! Is the Holy Spirit confined to the doctrinal system that you are here proposing - That is, the one that says that it isn't about...
  14. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    "Words have no meaning." :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
  15. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    It's a common mistake and it's surprisingly easy to miss the fact that you're making it, or at least it is in today's society where people haven't ever really been taught to even look for such things. It's annoying when people who aught to know better commit this sort of error but I don't think...
  16. Clete

    Honest struggles on God’s omniscience.

    I could have made that prediction. Predicting the actions of groups isn't hard even for us fallible human beings. It's child's play for God. Also, stating that it is a "future event that will happen" is overstating it. It is a future event that will almost certainly happen. People that God...
  17. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    There isn't anyone who knows anything about me or my doctrine who could rightly accuse me of preaching a works-righteousness. Also, I've never known anyone who articulated your point here who could explain to me the difference inherent in the distinction you are making. The fact is that "Faith...
  18. Clete

    Honest struggles on God’s omniscience.

    No one here is disputing the existence of prophesy. God makes prophesies and carries most of them out. Has anyone ever shown you a list of prophesies that didn't come to pass? I mean, such lists don't sell a lot of books at the local Christian book store but such lists do exist. There's a whole...
  19. Clete

    Progressive Disenchantment Atonement

    I don't care about the rule book. It's just boring! The man needs to use his own mind and have a actual conversation with people.
  20. Clete

    What did you believe before Open Theism?

    First and foremost because it is neither biblical nor rational. Saying it doesn't make it so. Saying it doesn't make it so. Open Theism is much older than the 1980s. That particular title for it showed up in the 80s but the doctrine is as old as the scripture itself. I don't care what...
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