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  1. Clete

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    No, it wasn't Jesus and it really isn't a matter of opinion. Jesus was intended to be the last King but not the first nor the only. This is evidenced by God's direct involvement with replacing King Saul with King David. Also, it can be no mere coincidence that Israel's first king being a man...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    I don't understand this response. My point was simply to point out that I'm not making this stuff up and have solid biblical basis for all of it. It doesn't have anything to do with rationalizing anything. On the original point about the effect of their eating of the Tree, just think it...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Having a king over Israel was always the plan. Israel's error wasn't in wanting a king, it was in not being patient enough to wait on God's timing. That, of course can be established but it seems a bit much for this post. Your disagreement is irrelevant. It isn't a matter of opinion. Anyone...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    You cannot seriously believe that Adam didn't know he was doing wrong when he ate of the Tree! Also, "God is not unjust." was the scriptural portion of my argument. In other words, if Adam was incapable of knowing right from wrong, then he was incapable of any action that was worthy of death (or...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    It is democracy that is pushing this nation toward the left, not Hagel, not the French and certainly not Freemasonry. Joseph McArthy's efforts to root out Communism was the last real effort anyone has made to rid our society of Marxist dogma (some might count Trump's efforts in this regard but...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Adam and Eve could discern good from evil before eating from the tree. Obey God = Good Disobey God = Evil It wasn't hard and they weren't stupid, nor is God unjust.
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    This nonsense is close to being an intentional lie except that I believe that you believe what you wrote here. Suffice to say that you've either been lied too or are just flatly wrong. For those who use the phrase as a motto, it means "God and my moral rightness". ‘Deus Meumque Jus’ is a Latin...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Your bias is startling. Some significant percentage, although not a majority, of the people who founded the most free, prosperous, tolerant and generous nation the world has ever seen were Freemasons, including its first president, who, instead of being the power hungry politicians that masonic...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Why do you only list the villains of history who were Masons? Why not include the good guys? George Washington Benjamin Franklin Mozart Beethoven Mark Twain John Wayne Mark Twain Charles Lindburg Winston Churchill Etc., etc, etc Not that even a list of the good guys is really relevant. It's...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    So, you don't seem to be getting the message. You'll get nowhere with me on this subject because I happen to know FOR A FACT that its all a bunch of nonsense. This knowledge doesn't come from books I've read that were written by authors I don't know and who clearly want to convince the world...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Look, you guys, I'm telling you, I have it directly from two Masons who I knew personally very very well (I've known more than those two but didn't have the same sort of close relationship). They were both in the Scottish Rite and the Shriner's. There's no Satan worship and the only time they...
  12. Clete

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    I've heard that Cain killed Abel on a Friday the 13th but I've never seen any argument made to establish that.
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Of course. I wouldn't have ever thought otherwise. You aren't suggesting that these T.V. preachers, who are almost universally seen as fools and con artists, are secret agents of the greater world-wide Masonic organization working to subvert something (God knows what) by bilking old women out...
  14. Clete

    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    You are a liar - period. There is no chance whatsoever that you didn't know that every syllable of this was an outright intention lie and the exact opposite of what Bob taught. You aught to be ashamed and embarrassed but instead you'll double down. Good bye!
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    I don't doubt that they were involved in some "conspiracies" 100+ years ago but I'm telling you, the overwhelmingly vast majority of Masons today are only conspiring to raise money to help sick kids. When my Dad was in the Akdar Shrine, all they did was things like sell tickets to their circus...
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    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    I do precisely that. You do what you want for whatever reasons you choose and I will do the same.
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    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    I DO NOT care about what your impression of me is. Yes. You're getting really close to ending the discussion twice in less than a week. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you seem to be trying just as hard to remove the doubt. Why is it that people cannot seem to understand...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    I have no problem with the Free Masons. My Dad was a pretty high ranking Free Mason and so I can tell you that the conspiracy theories associated with them are bunk. The fact that they're Masons has as much to do with the generation they're mostly from than it has anything to do with anything else.
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    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    That is not the reason I call people names. I call people names because they've demonstrated that the shoe fits. There's actually a very consistent and readily apparent progression with the way I deal with people that disagree with me. Telling them that something they've said is stupid comes...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    What a clown that moron is! Demanding in one breath that Covid19 go away immediately and in the next breath demanding that a vaccine show up immediately. Well, what the hell do you need a vaccine for if you just commanded the disease to go away?! I really don't understand how it is even...
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